I've never even handled one, so I'd like to hear what you folks have to say. Obviously the modularity is an excellent feature, but it's not the only thing important to a firearm's design. Considering the base model Sig P320, what else does it have going for it?
Sig P320: If it wasn't modular, would it still be a great pistol?
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Short answer: yes.
Long answer: the modularity honestly really does very little other than allow you to configure a single registered part into several different platforms.
And at the cost of all the additional parts to complete an fcu into a complete firearm, you pretty much will might as well just buy its own FCU to have it complete imo.
The only real Advantage I see is if you want a single controlled component, and be able to use it for multiple roles such as:
-carry gun/CCW (if + where you are permitted to)
-duty gun
-race gun
-NV gun
But honestly for what it's worth I'd rather just have an FCU for each of these and leave them put together.
Glock 17, S&W M&P9, and Sig 320 are all basically the same but different. Pick which you like or buy one of each.
Long answer: the modularity honestly really does very little other than allow you to configure a single registered part into several different platforms.
And at the cost of all the additional parts to complete an fcu into a complete firearm, you pretty much will might as well just buy its own FCU to have it complete imo.
The only real Advantage I see is if you want a single controlled component, and be able to use it for multiple roles such as:
-carry gun/CCW (if + where you are permitted to)
-duty gun
-race gun
-NV gun
But honestly for what it's worth I'd rather just have an FCU for each of these and leave them put together.
Glock 17, S&W M&P9, and Sig 320 are all basically the same but different. Pick which you like or buy one of each.
If it wasn't modular it never would have been adopted as a service pistol considering the US Army's bid competition was called the "Modular Handgun System", and maybe it would be far less popular with everyone else (maybe even abandoned by Sig?) as a result of not achieving that bid.
Anyway, I own one but I haven't shot it yet. Feels nice in the hand, but not a fan of polymer grip, stock trigger is OK. Points naturally. I've also shot an X5 Legion and the trigger was better and it weighs a bit more, so that was that.
I prefer my all metal hammer fired SIG's trigger and weight though. I bought the p320 for only one and a half reason: modular opens up options in our gun control country. And it's a Sig.
Anyway, I own one but I haven't shot it yet. Feels nice in the hand, but not a fan of polymer grip, stock trigger is OK. Points naturally. I've also shot an X5 Legion and the trigger was better and it weighs a bit more, so that was that.
I prefer my all metal hammer fired SIG's trigger and weight though. I bought the p320 for only one and a half reason: modular opens up options in our gun control country. And it's a Sig.
I find even the stock grip to be quite comfortable as well I really like the trigger. So people will trash it and thats fine but if it were not modular it would still be a great SFPF option. Another thing it has going for it is that you could, at a time get one with a Sig Romeo 1 for $1300 ish. Thats a great deal for a pistols with a decent optic out of the box. It also does not feature a trigger safety and that is a feature I really like.
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One criticism I have for this platform is that the reset force is quite weak. After each shot, you rely on one spring for the trigger to reset (sear and its spring is disconnected). Platforms like a Glock would have trigger return spring as well as the striker spring pushing your trigger to return. If you put an aftermarket trigger or trigger bar in the P320 problem becomes worse, sometimes the trigger doesn't reset at all without fitment to remedy any friction or drag.
Why does this matter? If the trigger doesn't help you reset it becomes a slower shooting gun vs something like a Glock.
To put this in a more technical way, say a Glock reset force is 3lb and a P320 is at 1lb, it's much easier to go from 5lb -> 3lb -> 5lb -> 3lb than from 5lb -> 1lb -> 5lb -> 1lb. As a result you kind of have to do more finger-work(you read that right
) to break the following shot.
However the modularity alone makes this #1 gun for the ban IMHO. One mod you could do for the P320 is try the apex trigger bar with their trigger as a set. Reduces travel(Combines striker block lifting with sear disengagement simultaneously), and the trigger hinge angle allowing for better reset(heavier)
Why does this matter? If the trigger doesn't help you reset it becomes a slower shooting gun vs something like a Glock.
To put this in a more technical way, say a Glock reset force is 3lb and a P320 is at 1lb, it's much easier to go from 5lb -> 3lb -> 5lb -> 3lb than from 5lb -> 1lb -> 5lb -> 1lb. As a result you kind of have to do more finger-work(you read that right
) to break the following shot.However the modularity alone makes this #1 gun for the ban IMHO. One mod you could do for the P320 is try the apex trigger bar with their trigger as a set. Reduces travel(Combines striker block lifting with sear disengagement simultaneously), and the trigger hinge angle allowing for better reset(heavier)
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I am not a striker fired handgun fan nor do I love plastic fantastics but bought one this summer because of the potential to upgrade and modify in the future. This is my hedge against not being allowed to buy any handguns in future.
PinaKaleada
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Unfortunately I haven’t asked Max about his reset experience before responding, my bad.
I had the opportunity to shoot a stock one after a match and it's a pretty solid gun. I shoot a CZ P10 and I like it a bit better than the Sig P320, but if I was issued a Sig P320 I'd be happy.
The trigger is pretty good, ergos are great, and generally all around it's a good pistol. It being adopted by the US services definitely gave it a big boost but it still would have been a big hit without it.
Really, almost all of the modern polymer striker fired guns offered by all the well known manufacturers are great guns, they're leaps and bounds better than the original wonder nines of the 80's.
The trigger is pretty good, ergos are great, and generally all around it's a good pistol. It being adopted by the US services definitely gave it a big boost but it still would have been a big hit without it.
Really, almost all of the modern polymer striker fired guns offered by all the well known manufacturers are great guns, they're leaps and bounds better than the original wonder nines of the 80's.
