IN-STOCK: All-New TYPE 81 SR

Murray 3-D said:
Theres a market for both. People like me who love the older cold war Nostalgia prefer the way they set up the SR, and would very much view 1913 rails, mlok slots and polymer furniture as take aways to the SRs appeal.

Where as evidently many would rather have something styled closer to the NAR-10 or M10x.
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agree 100%
 
Murray 3-D said:
Theres a market for both. People like me who love the older cold war Nostalgia prefer the way they set up the SR, and would very much view 1913 rails, mlok slots and polymer furniture as take aways to the SRs appeal.

Where as evidently many would rather have something styled closer to the NAR-10 or M10x.
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Indeed. No way I’d want a modern western rifle out of this. I’d way prefer the Soviet era look.
 
Fordtrucks said:
Id recommend they build the rifles properly before making new stuff but thats me. No more junk parts bin guns with crooked barrels. They still build type 56 and they arent sone jallopy like these
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I am not affiliated with TI in anyway,
my working sample size for type 81 rifles is 2 that ive shot a fair bit, both SE
I handled polish arsenal AKMs in droves over seas, type 81 SE feels and looks quite similar comparable build quality to it and other mil contract aks ive handled . I actually prefer the type 81 bolt personally
they are actually surprisingly accurate with the norc white box non corrosive I have, both <4 MOA some groups surprisingly tight, we were able to both shoot at my range, 150m, hitting a torso steel plate consistently with irons
above should be improved by some magnification and a bit more ergos/barrel length/better trigger, youd think. I can almost guarantee that this type 81 SR is more accurate than a tavor lol
anyways, Ive not seen any crooked barrels, theyre mil surp looking in nature but its to be expected, still they were/are definitely built within tolerance. mine is beautiful , no junk anything , no complaints,
I see comments like yours and think, either you had a lemon or people just whining but hey maybe im wrong
anyways, ima enjoy this rifle tho I feel guilty for buying a po optic made in belarus..? frig
 
Murray 3-D said:
Theres a market for both. People like me who love the older cold war Nostalgia prefer the way they set up the SR, and would very much view 1913 rails, mlok slots and polymer furniture as take aways to the SRs appeal.

Where as evidently many would rather have something styled closer to the NAR-10 or M10x.
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CaseyK said:
agree 100%
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JeffMan said:
Indeed. No way I’d want a modern western rifle out of this. I’d way prefer the Soviet era look.
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sr is really the essence of that nostalgia and efficiency as well.
 
CaseyK said:
I am not affiliated with TI in anyway,
my working sample size for type 81 rifles is 2 that ive shot a fair bit, both SE
I handled polish arsenal AKMs in droves over seas, type 81 SE feels and looks quite similar comparable build quality to it and other mil contract aks ive handled . I actually prefer the type 81 bolt personally
they are actually surprisingly accurate with the norc white box non corrosive I have, both <4 MOA some groups surprisingly tight, we were able to both shoot at my range, 150m, hitting a torso steel plate consistently with irons
above should be improved by some magnification and a bit more ergos/barrel length/better trigger, youd think. I can almost guarantee that this type 81 SR is more accurate than a tavor lol
anyways, Ive not seen any crooked barrels, theyre mil surp looking in nature but its to be expected, still they were/are definitely built within tolerance. mine is beautiful , no junk anything , no complaints,
I see comments like yours and think, either you had a lemon or people just whining but hey maybe im wrong
anyways, ima enjoy this rifle tho I feel guilty for buying a po optic made in belarus..? frig
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Thanks for your insight man! Here's to hoping this T81 SR (Sniper Rifle ?) maximizes the platform's accuracy heh

Just a heads up the optic on the TI website says it's produced by NPZ which is a factory in Novosibirsk Russia , not Belorussia
 
CaseyK said:
I am not affiliated with TI in anyway,
my working sample size for type 81 rifles is 2 that ive shot a fair bit, both SE
I handled polish arsenal AKMs in droves over seas, type 81 SE feels and looks quite similar comparable build quality to it and other mil contract aks ive handled . I actually prefer the type 81 bolt personally
they are actually surprisingly accurate with the norc white box non corrosive I have, both <4 MOA some groups surprisingly tight, we were able to both shoot at my range, 150m, hitting a torso steel plate consistently with irons
above should be improved by some magnification and a bit more ergos/barrel length/better trigger, youd think. I can almost guarantee that this type 81 SR is more accurate than a tavor lol
anyways, Ive not seen any crooked barrels, theyre mil surp looking in nature but its to be expected, still they were/are definitely built within tolerance. mine is beautiful , no junk anything , no complaints,
I see comments like yours and think, either you had a lemon or people just whining but hey maybe im wrong
anyways, ima enjoy this rifle tho I feel guilty for buying a po optic made in belarus..? frig
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Doesn't have money or just likes to b....

I have handled quite a few type 81 as well. Only one where I wasn't sure if it was bent. I followed the instructions of that gnnutz guy on youtube and even that one seemed to be within specs. I also don't feel the need to shell out $150 for an AK selector or change the safety to the left side and other gimmicks. There was a problem with the wood quality but not with the actually rifle. I can new only shake my head when people remove the barrel sleeve or are trying to fit some fancy stock to it. The LOP on the folder is not long enough for me, so I hope the SR will help me. I am build like a monkey, no offense to monkeys, lol.
 
I received my scope today. No rifle though. Didn't receive shipping notice either. Received the rcmp transfer notification last week though.
 
By the way, apparently the PO 4x optic has a rangefinder etched into the reticle (from reading about NPZ 4x x39 PO scopes ) , that seems pretty useless, what's out there that's 1m in length to zero against in the field ??
 
Fordtrucks said:
Id recommend they build the rifles properly before making new stuff but thats me. No more junk parts bin guns with crooked barrels. They still build type 56 and they arent sone jallopy like these
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I’ve yet to see a Type 81 break, or one that couldn’t be zeroed.
 
Fordtrucks said:
They import new type 56 to south africa do youre homework and Ive handled lots of chinese sks's. Export and military... none had crooked barrels
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Theres enough evidence floating around to imply that misaligned barrels on stamped Chinese AKs was a thing. A few content creators and collectors in the states and Europe have hinted at it. Theres even a PLA propaganda poster floating around that many here have seen that clearly shows a soldier shouldering a "bent" type 81-1.
 
Thiopento said:
By the way, apparently the PO 4x optic has a rangefinder etched into the reticle (from reading about NPZ 4x x39 PO scopes ) , that seems pretty useless, what's out there that's 1m in length to zero against in the field ??
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1.5m as the russian for civilian cannot have military reticle. military is 1.7m for rangefinder but all the other arrows have the same mrad variations as the military one.
 
CaseyK said:
I am not affiliated with TI in anyway,
my working sample size for type 81 rifles is 2 that ive shot a fair bit, both SE
I handled polish arsenal AKMs in droves over seas, type 81 SE feels and looks quite similar comparable build quality to it and other mil contract aks ive handled . I actually prefer the type 81 bolt personally
they are actually surprisingly accurate with the norc white box non corrosive I have, both <4 MOA some groups surprisingly tight, we were able to both shoot at my range, 150m, hitting a torso steel plate consistently with irons
above should be improved by some magnification and a bit more ergos/barrel length/better trigger, youd think. I can almost guarantee that this type 81 SR is more accurate than a tavor lol
anyways, Ive not seen any crooked barrels, theyre mil surp looking in nature but its to be expected, still they were/are definitely built within tolerance. mine is beautiful , no junk anything , no complaints,
I see comments like yours and think, either you had a lemon or people just whining but hey maybe im wrong
anyways, ima enjoy this rifle tho I feel guilty for buying a po optic made in belarus..? frig
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Lol even worse....NPZ = made in Russia itself.
 
Thiopento said:
By the way, apparently the PO 4x optic has a rangefinder etched into the reticle (from reading about NPZ 4x x39 PO scopes ) , that seems pretty useless, what's out there that's 1m in length to zero against in the field ??
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they are generally built for 1.7m or 1.5 m in height which is average height of a man. you use the bit on the left and put their feet on the horizontal line and head underneath appropriate place on bell curve to judge distance
its like a crummy acog, more or less. I am not sure the unmarked subtension for drop but its probably something like 200 400 600 you could find online most likely.
would take some practice but you could probably find comparable 1.5m average heights in nature
even if you dont use that feature, its nice to have hold overs when you are good at judging distance in general.
 
Murray 3-D said:
Lol even worse....NPZ = made in Russia itself.
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lol

CaseyK said:
they are generally built for 1.7m or 1.5 m in height which is average height of a man. you use the bit on the left and put their feet on the horizontal line and head underneath appropriate place on bell curve to judge distance
its like a crummy acog, more or less. I am not sure the unmarked subtension for drop but its probably something like 200 400 600 you could find online most likely.
would take some practice but you could probably find comparable 1.5m average heights in nature
even if you dont use that feature, its nice to have hold overs when you are good at judging distance in general.
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the 3 lower arrows are supposed to be 1100, 1200 and 1300 meters for the 7.62x54r but coming from npz factory more intersting is that:

The spacing under top chevron for PO4x24P is 3.3, 7.2, and 11,4 mrad to lower chevrons
 
Thiopento said:
By the way, apparently the PO 4x optic has a rangefinder etched into the reticle (from reading about NPZ 4x x39 PO scopes ) , that seems pretty useless, what's out there that's 1m in length to zero against in the field ??
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1m? The shoulder of a whitetail deer. All NPZ PO optics are marketed for civilians and therefore have 1.5m ranging reticles. The 1.5m is arguably the total height of a buck... the only optic i know of that has a 1m ranging reticle is a BelOMO POSP with the 400m siminov reticle. Other POSPs seem to be a blend between 1.5m and 1.7m (human height) reticles.... all of which (excluding the siminov reticle) are designed for 54r ballistics.
 
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I actually played around with the 1.5m ranging reticle on my SKS last deer season while spotting deer in the valley below. The buddy next to me had a rangefinder. The optical range finder in the PO optic was impressively accurate. Good enough for making rough shots that in a military situation i could imagine would be quite often good enough. Of course my SKS's hunting range was only 200m so in my case it was more of a cool gimmick.
 
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