Portuguese 1904 DMGLM Rifles Survey

Good to see this old thread come up again. I don't have any new updates on finding more DMGLM marked rifles. The few folks who responded to me in South Africa shared their numbers. I found it interesting that some of the rifles do share suffix block letters and a few, like mine, have no serial number marked on the receiver, which I have yet to figure out.

As for my loads, I just want to be clear that this is what I have been using and it may or may not work best for your rifle, use are your own discretion.

I have been using reformed and trimmed 270 Winchester brass with regular 6.5 .264 140 gr diameter bullets that you can pick up at Canadian Tire. These do not always feed well as the original 6.5 Portuguese bullet was long, just like the 6.5 Swedish. The reformed brass, every now and then, doesn't feed properly but that is to be expected. The dies are the CH4D dies for 6.5 Portuguese that, thankfully, came with the rifle and they work well with the reformed brass. Last, but not least, I have been using IMR3031 and experimenting with the powder charge a bit, my last recorded charge being about 32.8 grs using a 2.5cc dipper spoon. Overall length was measured as approximately 80mm.

The rounds feed well from a 8x57mm stripper clip and the bolt manipulation was very smooth. At 100 yards, I took aim at the 6 oclock position of the target as the minimum sighting is at 200 m. The front sight blade on my rifle is ever so slightly bent to the left but it didn't seem to affect my accuracy alot. Free standing, and using the sling as support, I was able to get the first five shots on target and in a decent little group. Recoil was light to moderate and cycling of the action was, again, quite smooth.

The rifle was drawing some attention at the range when fellow shooters nearby, who thought it was a simple Mauser, but were perplexed by the action and bolt. All in all, a lovely day at the range with a unique rifle.

Great info, I'm looking for dies and a rifle now, your data will be very useful once I've got it all together.
Is there any reason not to use 6.5x57 brass to make x58 brass? other than it being 1mm shorter that is?
I've never done anything like it but it seems like it would be simpler to use than using 270 win brass?
 
Tried 6.5x57 S&B in 6.5x58P M1904 and bolt will not close.



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Ok here we go, my first 1904 6.5x58 with DMGLM marking was serial number A5957 with non matching bolt. I no longer own this rifle and it went to Ellwood Epps along with a few other milsurps I foolishly sold in around 2003 or 2004. Maybe someone here in our community has this one.
My second one I bought last year from a gunshop in Waterloo but don't have the serial number handy as we are in the midst of a long distance move and everything is still cacooned for lack of a better word.
My first example had been well used but still had a decent bore and shot ok by my standards. My more recent example is in much better condition with a fair amount of cosmo under the action/stockline and very nice bluing remaining on most surfaces. A really nice example in my opinion, I'll see about snapping a few pictures of that one when it comes out of hiding.
I'd also like to add that I also owned an absolutely pristine arsenal rebuilt 1904/39 in 8x57 cal., just gorgeous but again like a few other milsurp gems I owned I foolishly sold it off as well. Not doing that anymore.

Wish I'd known! I owned A5956 from 2007 to about 2018. Was only in fair condition, but I bought it for $200 and sold it for more.

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Wish I'd known! I owned A5956 from 2007 to about 2018. Was only in fair condition, but I bought it for $200 and sold it for more.

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That is neat alright. I purchased A5957 in the late 70's for under 100.00 as that was around my comfort zone for coin at the time. It had been around the block a time or two but did have a decent bore and shot ok. The one I currently have is in really nice shape, I would rate it in very good condition. A relatively uncommon milsurp that I feel lucky to have in my herd.
 
A few pics of my 1904 Vergueiro to bump up this thread. A few bumps and bruises but the bore is really nice shape and shoots very well. I use mostly reformed 7x57 brass but also use 270 and 30-06 brass as well that I run through a file trim die. I find data for the 6.5x57 Mauser works well for this rifle.20250115_143822.jpg20250115_143656.jpg20250115_142328.jpg20250115_142126.jpg
 
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