Nork m93 and colt woodsman parts interchange?

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Just got approved for a norinco m93 frame and as I understand it’s a copy of the colt woodsman 22 so I’m wondering what if any parts are interchangeable, I know mar star has a bunch of m93 parts available but not everything and being able to use woodsman parts would make putting it together that much easier, any info is appreciated
 
Did you ever figure out any parts interchange? I need a firing pin and spring. Do you know if the pre-woodsman firing pin and spring will work in the Norinco?
 
Ha, I sure hope your trigger mechanism is all there and intact behind that little plate. Whatever you do, do not take that M*&^%$@*&g plate off. It took me about a month to get it back together inside and I sold the piece of crap.
 
unstableryan said:
Ha, I sure hope your trigger mechanism is all there and intact behind that little plate. Whatever you do, do not take that M*&^%$@*&g plate off. It took me about a month to get it back together inside and I sold the piece of crap.
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I love both of mine, fun pistols and pretty accurate, almost as accurate as friend's Ruger Mk3 but yea, that whole pistol should not be taken apart unless absolutely necessary. I have two of them. I took the slide off of first one, pretty easy to do, main spring popped out of it position. Took somebody who's been working with firearms for years about 5 hours to put that damn thing together. I've never heard that man curse so much. Plate, main spring, trigger position. It almost feels like whoever designed the thing made it so people would suffer lol
 
VuDu666 said:
I love both of mine, fun pistols and pretty accurate, almost as accurate as friend's Ruger Mk3 but yea, that whole pistol should not be taken apart unless absolutely necessary. I have two of them. I took the slide off of first one, pretty easy to do, main spring popped out of it position. Took somebody who's been working with firearms for years about 5 hours to put that damn thing together. I've never heard that man curse so much. Plate, main spring, trigger position. It almost feels like whoever designed the thing made it so people would suffer lol
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John Moses Browning designed the Colt Woodsman.
 
05RAV said:
John Moses Browning designed the Colt Woodsman.
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I know that but I'm not sure design is 100% identical to Woodsman. Never sees insides of a Woodsman but Norinco version certainly gives an impression that there is design flaw when it comes how springs sit there. I thought my first M93 was defective in some way or maybe I messed up. Watched couple of videos and people had zero issues but than I started seeing online posts where many people suggested to never take the thing apart unless absolutely necessary. There is one youtube video where person was doing field strip tutorial and the damn thing (main recoil spring) just went flying. It sits there under tremendous pressure and is being held by one small, thin, bent steel plate that is poorly attached to the slide. That thing bends or gets dislodged from the slide - you are in the world of pain. Only other handgun I've ever heard similar horror stories about when it comes to re assembly is pre MkIv Ruger .22's.
 
unstableryan said:
Ha, I sure hope your trigger mechanism is all there and intact behind that little plate. Whatever you do, do not take that M*&^%$@*&g plate off. It took me about a month to get it back together inside and I sold the piece of crap.
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VuDu666 said:
I love both of mine, fun pistols and pretty accurate, almost as accurate as friend's Ruger Mk3 but yea, that whole pistol should not be taken apart unless absolutely necessary. I have two of them. I took the slide off of first one, pretty easy to do, main spring popped out of it position. Took somebody who's been working with firearms for years about 5 hours to put that damn thing together. I've never heard that man curse so much. Plate, main spring, trigger position. It almost feels like whoever designed the thing made it so people would suffer lol
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I had a M93 years back. I shot the sheit out of it. It was a fun little gun. It started to misfire occasionaly due to it being dirty. I then watched a youtube video to see how to disassemble, clean and reassemble the pistol. After watching the video I changed my mind about cleaning it. I sold it on the EE as used and dirty. Still to this day that was one of my best decisions I ever made I think.
 
unstableryan said:
Ha, I sure hope your trigger mechanism is all there and intact behind that little plate. Whatever you do, do not take that M*&^%$@*&g plate off. It took me about a month to get it back together inside and I sold the piece of crap.
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I ended up with a stripped frame when marstar had that 50$ for a random norinco frame deal and now I’m slowly piecing together parts, got another complete gun I’m waiting for transfer but I’d love to get two for me and my wife to have some competitions together hopefully it won’t take a month to assemble after I get all the parts
 
VuDu666 said:
I know that but I'm not sure design is 100% identical to Woodsman. Never sees insides of a Woodsman but Norinco version certainly gives an impression that there is design flaw when it comes how springs sit there. I thought my first M93 was defective in some way or maybe I messed up. Watched couple of videos and people had zero issues but than I started seeing online posts where many people suggested to never take the thing apart unless absolutely necessary. There is one youtube video where person was doing field strip tutorial and the damn thing (main recoil spring) just went flying. It sits there under tremendous pressure and is being held by one small, thin, bent steel plate that is poorly attached to the slide. That thing bends or gets dislodged from the slide - you are in the world of pain. Only other handgun I've ever heard similar horror stories about when it comes to re assembly is pre MkIv Ruger .22's.
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I have a M93 Sportsman for a few years now and inside it looks identical like the Colt Pre-Woodsman (the name "Woodsman" was introduced around 1927 if I remember correctly). Anyway, the internals were never changed, only some external changes were implemented until 1977 in various batches. Most likely John Browning had a bit too much whiskey when he designed the Woodsman. :)
I made a mistake once when I field stripped my M93 and the recoil spring popped out. I couldn't install it back by myself and went to my local gunsmith. He installed it back for $20 which was still not bad at all. That was a few years ago. Since then I field strip it only if necessary and basically it is not really needed if you use a bore snake for cleaning with the slide on. These days I transferred the M93 to my son-in-law who is going to teach my granddaughter to shoot handguns.
Otherwise the M93 is absolutely great pistol, especially when to take into account the price of less than $200 when I bought it.
 
I just received my “parts” woodsman I won at auction (SFRC) last night and I took the firing pin out to see if it would fit the M-93. It is very close but doesn’t want to fit as is. I’m sure I could take the needle files and emery cloth to it to get it to work. I tried swapping slides. Colt fits Norc but the norc slide won’t fit the colt. Again, it is probably some minor filing and clean up. The Norinco isn’t a bad gun but the fit and finish isn’t great. The “parts” gun I bought went back together beautifully and works. $250 for a 1920 pre-woodsman seems like a great deal to me. I’m going to do a video of both guns being stripped and reassembled side by side to show the similarities and differences and I’ll put a link here once it’s done. I may even do a video of making a new firing pin since no companies want to ship them to commie Canada now. If anyone wants to see these videos, say something so I’ll get off my ass and make it sooner than later.
 
Wyldstallions said:
I just received my “parts” woodsman I won at auction (SFRC) last night and I took the firing pin out to see if it would fit the M-93. It is very close but doesn’t want to fit as is. I’m sure I could take the needle files and emery cloth to it to get it to work. I tried swapping slides. Colt fits Norc but the norc slide won’t fit the colt. Again, it is probably some minor filing and clean up. The Norinco isn’t a bad gun but the fit and finish isn’t great. The “parts” gun I bought went back together beautifully and works. $250 for a 1920 pre-woodsman seems like a great deal to me. I’m going to do a video of both guns being stripped and reassembled side by side to show the similarities and differences and I’ll put a link here once it’s done. I may even do a video of making a new firing pin since no companies want to ship them to commie Canada now. If anyone wants to see these videos, say something so I’ll get off my ass and make it sooner than later.
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That would be awesome to see I’ve only got a handful of parts for my Norc frame and my complete gun hasn’t been approved yet need all the help I can get to complete this parts build
 
I’ll start working on it this week and I’ll try to swap all parts to see what fits, what could fit with some work and what is different. I’ll post a link when it’s up.
 
Cleaning: Take the slide off, take the grips off, take both components and put them in an ultrasonic cleaner, run it twice, dry the frame with compressed air, oil lightly, put the grips back on. Dry the slide, oil the slide lightly, reassemble the slide on the frame. Life is good.
 
The Norinco clone adds a few features to the original pre-Woodsman design: Firing pin block safety, magazine disconnect safety, and a slide stop with last-round-hold-open ability.

All of those features can be removed, making the clones easier to work with (and improving the trigger).
 
dan belisle said:
Which I own a couple of, and they are much easier to disassemble and reassemble than their Norc copies (which I also own). - dan
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For me the only problem I originally had with disassembly of the M93 was that small button on the slide which captures the recoil spring in compressed position. On the M93 this button is quite rough and if improperly pressed, it may not capture the recoil spring and then that loooong spring pops up! I had the original Woodsman only once in my hands and it appeared to me that the recoil spring button was much smoother that than on the M93. The other major point in re-assembly is inserting the backstrap which, if done improperly, can release that recoil spring again. That's what happened to me once. Otherwise, the M93 is a pretty simple design. IMHO the only problematic point in design of both the Woodsman and Sportsman M93 is the method of capturing the recoil spring with a small, flimsy tab inside the slide. I guess that John M. Browning could think a bit longer about his design to come up with some better mechanism than that.
 
I got my M-93 a few weeks back and just got my “Parts gun” which turns out to be a complete 1920 Woodsman. I stripped both guns and did a video of comparing parts. Hope this helps.

https://youtu.be/g7jPW5kKNx4 Let me know if this video is if any help with parts interchange.

As far as the trigger goes, I’ll post a video of a super easy way of getting it back together. Takes a nightmare job and makes it a 30 second easy job.
 
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