Gun show reloading prices

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Had tables at the Brooks Gun Show this weekend. One fellow had an older 8lb. tin canister of 748 sitting on his table. I sauntered over to see what the price was - $800. f:P:2:

No wonder people bellyache about gun shows. I am not unaware of the shortage of components, so no need to pour on the snide remarks. Lots of 1 lb. cans for $100-$110. If a person is trying to reload for one of the anti-tank guns (bigger hunting rifles) that take big doses of powder, I feel for them.

One fellow cleaned me out on copper washed .7.62x51 and 7.62x25 ammo first thing on Saturday morning. All in all, it was a good show. Met and spoke with some very interesting people. Several fathers buying guns for their sons and daughters. Now that is good to see.

Some very deep resentment towards our dear leader and liebrals/ndIp$sh1ts in general.
 
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My folks moved to just outside Brooks a few months ago and was looking forward to going for a visit this last weekend.... and going to that gun show. But, I forgot that I was in a 2-day Auto-Ex course with the Fire Dept, so I didn't end up making the trip. Hope I didn't miss any smoking deals or unicorns. Thanks to schedules I've only been able to make one gun show this year. It's always good to look around and chat with people. Hoping for a better 2023 for gun shows and schedules
 
I ran down to the Carmen gun show on the weekend. Nice to get out after harvest. Ya there were some crazy asking prices on primers and such but when you hear of what some guys will pay, it's not surprising. For sure there is inflation on a lot of the gun prices but at the same time I expect most of the high price stuff went home unsold. I found a couple things on my want list like 9x57 (not 8x57) mauser and some 32 rimfire.
 
I ran down to the Carmen gun show on the weekend. Nice to get out after harvest. Ya there were some crazy asking prices on primers and such but when you hear of what some guys will pay, it's not surprising. For sure there is inflation on a lot of the gun prices but at the same time I expect most of the high price stuff went home unsold. I found a couple things on my want list like 9x57 (not 8x57) mauser and some 32 rimfire.

I was at the Salmon Arm Gun Show, on the Oct 22/23 weekend and primers were priced high. I picked up three thousand CCI 450 small rifle magnum primers from a walk in, carrying them in his man purse bag, for $150. I doubled the price to $100/1000, fully expecting to be dickered down and another vendor came over, gave me three $100 bills, took them back to his table and added $35 to the price of each brick. They didn't make it two hours into Saturday morning.
 
Ive got 1 yrs primers left in stock but after that Im done. Buddy of mine just paid $200 for a brick of SP Federal from a gunshow vendor and i thought he was crazy but just yesterday he was in a LGS talking with the owner about primers...the owner offered him his money back on the brick if he wanted, The owner proceeded to tell us that "his price" on new bulk orders is $344 and when ordered none ever show up even at that price.
 
i sold all my large rifle primers 5 months ago now only reload with small rifle primers - i have enough componets the only thing I do not have is time to actually reload and go to the range - I have about 30 reloaded ammo that I will be using for coyote hunting this year which is more than enough since last year only shot twice and missed twice
 
Worked the big Gun Show in Edmonton for a number of years and to be honest, most of the deals are done before the doors open. When it is getting set up the night before is when the deals are to be had, once the doors open to the public the stuff that is left is regular price or slightly higher than retail in most cases. Only deals are the real late comers that know one had a chance to see , or something was brought in after the doors open. Feel sorry for people that travel hours to go to a gun show specifically looking for a deal on common bought stuff, going for a rare piece that you need maybe worth it but usually not. If the show has a theme or special presentation/special guest or something like that ok, other than that I will pass.
 
So are there any savings to reloading, if you have the cases? If you can find loaded ammo.

Absolutely, there are savings to be had with reloading vs. buying loaded ammunition. But any savings quickly get rolled back into components and equipment, so probably most of us wind up shooting more - Not necessarily spending less.
 
Thats the goal with reloading..shooting more for less or equal money. Many time it cost more, because of better bullets, first class case used, but at the end, it’s worth every penny not to have to chase commercial ammo.
 
I was at the Salmon Arm Gun Show, on the Oct 22/23 weekend and primers were priced high. I picked up three thousand CCI 450 small rifle magnum primers from a walk in, carrying them in his man purse bag, for $150. I doubled the price to $100/1000, fully expecting to be dickered down and another vendor came over, gave me three $100 bills, took them back to his table and added $35 to the price of each brick. They didn't make it two hours into Saturday morning.

Those CCI 450 are selling for $125 a brick from CDN Tire. When you can find them.
 
Am I ever glad that I saw the "handwriting on the wall" well ahead of this shortage. :)
I believe I have enough primers/powder/bullets to keep me shooting for some time yet.

A lot of the asking prices simply show greed. Most powders in tin containers sold for
$20.00/lb or less not that long ago. Primers at $25.00/1000. Prices are up, certainly,
but $120.00/lb for powder is ridiculous. Sadly, some are paying that price. Dave
 
Am I ever glad that I saw the "handwriting on the wall" well ahead of this shortage. :)
I believe I have enough primers/powder/bullets to keep me shooting for some time yet.

A lot of the asking prices simply show greed. Most powders in tin containers sold for
$20.00/lb or less not that long ago. Primers at $25.00/1000. Prices are up, certainly,
but $120.00/lb for powder is ridiculous. Sadly, some are paying that price. Dave

Dave, you've seen this sort of thing before and that's why you used your FU powers to see into the future and stock up before the drought.

For at least a decade, "tins" of powder have been obsolete and plastic bottles, which take up to much space on a shelf, are the norm.

Right around the time of that changeover, we went through another drought and all of the comments from those that never purchase more than a pound of powder and a couple of 100 count boxes of primers and a box of bullets, come out of their closets crying foul and blaming the high prices on greed and hoarding.

There may be a bit of that, but not nearly as much as many would like to believe.

At the end of the last drought, vendors who had put in large orders for components were stuck with a lot overpriced stock they couldn't sell at a price that would break even with their overall cost.

So many, if not most, refused to purchase bulk quantities, simply because demand really wasn't there to motivate them to do so.

I did a bit of a survey, over 300 people at the last gun show I attended and the one before in Kamloops last spring.

Out of both surveys of 300 people each, in Kamloops, 7 people I queried hand loaded some of the time and 11 hand loaded all of their ammo, other than rimfire. At Salmon Arm, the numbers were even smaller, 5 loaded some of the time and 8 loaded all of their CF ammo.

Everyone else was looking for loaded ammo.

I was in Del Selin's last Thursday and there was a fellow in the store, looking for "Remington 7mm Express" cartridges.

He had a pump action 742 which was stamped with that cartridge designation.

Del wasn't doing well health wise, or he would have quickly settled the issue for the fellow. It's the ''first designation'' for what we now call the 280 Remington cartridge. Americans didn't like anything with a metric designation back in those days.

The reason I'm mentioning this, is to make the point of how many firearms owners and enthusiasts do not hand load and don't really have any functional knowledge on what they or their firearms are doing.

Sites such as CGN, are islands of a basic semblance of knowledge in a sea of indifference.
 
I had my stuff packed up unused for about 2 years. Kept poking around the odd gun store and gun show and would buy what I could where I could. Finally all settled in new house, have a dedicated reloading bench area and got myself mostly organized... seems I might be a hoarder now that I can see what I have lol. 7,000 small pistol primers, 5,000 large pistol... 12-14 pounds of varying powders... a schwack of 45 bullets and brass. I guess I'm not short anything except maybe 9mm bullets and brass. Looking forward to Speedy Creek show to see what I don't need there lol
 
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