Handguns Worth Now

Daver_II said:
I put a tonne of work into our club. We cleaned out the board, installed younger and more active members, and built several new facilities for club matches.

And yes, the ones that voted against most upgrades were the old guys who didnt like black guns, fast shooting, and couldn't believe people wanted to shoot steel targets.

Don't assume that I'm just #####ing for the sake of it.

Not all of the older generation are the problem, but they are the ones on guard when the first steps were taken... the first dominoes started to fall...

And they are often the more risk adverse group.
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Do you recall 10k gun owners marching in ottawa? I do. Yeah, sad we didnt have an armed revolution for you. - dan
 
dan belisle said:
"Took"? Your grasp of the circumstances is weak. It was imposed, there was no "took". Just like all the Lib emotion based gun laws. I assume with your attitude, youre still taking your AR to the range every week right? - dan
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Yes Took...

There were of course those that didn't take it, and the guns they saved will likely get passed on to future generations... unlike yours.
 
dan belisle said:
Do you recall 10k gun owners marching in ottawa? I do. Yeah, sad we didnt have an armed revolution for you. - dan
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No I don't recall 10k gun owners marching in Ottawa... I wasn't old enough to be involved then... (but it is funny that now we can't hardly get some of the defeatist's to sigh a 2 minute parlementary petition)

But taking pride in your lost battles is exactly the point I was making about people like that feeling special because they still have their prohibs.

My generation's fight is further and more uphill thanks to the previous lines failing... but at least you get to keep your 12.x until you die.
 
Dan, don’t trouble yourself with those who lean left and complain about your contributions to firearms freedom. They are busily cutting their own throat while blaming you.
 
emerson said:
Dan, don’t trouble yourself with those who lean left and complain about your contributions to firearms freedom. They are busily cutting their own throat while blaming you.
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there is a difference between leaning left and being left of *you*.

I am quite right-wing, but those who write others off as politically opposed, tend not to understand nuance.

Every point I have made in this discussion is true (albeit with some generalizations). whether you agree or not.


Those that should have acted when the fight started, have made the fight so much harder now.
 
Daver_II said:
Yes Took...

There were of course those that didn't take it, and the guns they saved will likely get passed on to future generations... unlike yours.
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You sir are full of ####, you just said you where too young, so you are still too young to know what went on I could send you the act, but you could also read it online .
I happen to shoot my first steel challenge in my mid 70's
Before that just standard targets.
We had a clean up at the out door range, I could not make it as heart shot, but out of a 400 member ship there was 5 that showed up, they where all old guys , it was a week end.
There where quite a few that sold, turned in there small pistols as they where scared to loss a few dollars, So they are better off the the rest of us that kept the guns.
BTW I had full auto at the same time, so I am a real old useless bugger according to your thinking I guess.
Get a life.
I don't know where you are coming from , and don't really care.
 
marshall said:
You sir are full of ####, you just said you where too young, so you are still too young to know what went on I could send you the act, but you could also read it online .
I happen to shoot my first steel challenge in my mid 70's
Before that just standard targets.
We had a clean up at the out door range, I could not make it as heart shot, but out of a 400 member ship there was 5 that showed up, they where all old guys , it was a week end.
There where quite a few that sold, turned in there small pistols as they where scared to loss a few dollars, So they are better off the the rest of us that kept the guns.
BTW I had full auto at the same time, so I am a real old useless bugger according to your thinking I guess.
Get a life.
I don't know where you are coming from , and don't really care.
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I'm not saying some didn't fight, I'm saying that they lost.

And many sold out.

Our club too was dying off due to old age and a membership cap, there was a four year wait list to join up. And people complained the younger generation wasn't helping on the work days...

Ironic that when we removed members that were not active in the last 5 years, yet paid their yearly dues... we had a lot of room for new blood. Just happened to be the older crew that held all the strong opinions.

Suddenly everything changed that the old guy barriers were gone.

We went from three ranges to six. And work days/club matches/ funding is all up.


Now, I did inform myself of the history of gun legislation in canada... I am aware of what went on.

I'm not saying gun ownwrs did nothing, I'm saying they didn't do enough.

The fight you had was an easier fight than we have now.... that is all.

You can say I'm full of ####. And need to get a life, but all.I did was offend you....

What your generation of gun owners did was give up ground... and allow the framework that we now are tied to.

All you had to do was keep what you had.... we have fight for more than we started with...

And that is on your generation.
 
To bring it back to what are handguns worth now?

They are worth the same as every 12.x

What it's worth to the owner until it dies with them.



Unfortunately unless we can start winning some of our battles, that's where we are at.
 
Daver_II said:
there is a difference between leaning left and being left of *you*.

I am quite right-wing, but those who write others off as politically opposed, tend not to understand nuance.

Every point I have made in this discussion is true (albeit with some generalizations). whether you agree or not.


Those that should have acted when the fight started, have made the fight so much harder now.
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Got it. It's all those mean boomers fault. Cry for us some more. - dan
 
dan belisle said:
Those arent truths, just your excuses. - dan
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So we are not further behind than when you tried your best?

So we dont have to work harder now to gain the ground lost since your gun owning generation was at the helm?

So The older generation didn't earn the reputation of Fudds, who acted detrimentally toward black guns, and modern shooting disciplines?

You can feel free to disagree, but you know they are truths.
 
Denisb said:
Absolutely ####ing nothing. If it's stolen your insurance company won't cover it. Can't insure something with no intrinsic value. However, legally, the OIC, if it is not signed into law by the Governor General before the next election, becomes null and void. Or another government can always change the law. So your choice is are you willing to wait or are you going to sell them on the black market? If you do sell them make sure you go through all the steps to thoroughly remove the serial numbers. Otherwise, if they're used in a crime and discovered you're toast. The choice is yours.
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I'm sure a lot of ppl will be removing the numbers to sell on the black market when times get tough. If they don't have the option to sell legally, some ppl will be tempted by the 5k a handgun easy profit.

How stupid is it that we can't even still sell to each other? I mean it's stupid enough as is, but denying current legal holders of a handgun the ability to sell it to another eligible person is extra dumb. It's just encouraging more guns really do end up on the street.
 
Daver_II said:
So we are not further behind than when you tried your best?

So we dont have to work harder now to gain the ground lost since your gun owning generation was at the helm?

So The older generation didn't earn the reputation of Fudds, who acted detrimentally toward black guns, and modern shooting disciplines?

You can feel free to disagree, but you know they are truths.
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And how have you made it better? Have you started the revolution you want? So the current generation isnt full of whinging ####s who are scared and rush to do everything the libtards tell them? Show us how you're the hero of the story, we'll wait. Take your self righteous whinging and stuff it where the sun dont shine junior. Everyone fought against it to the best of their personal and financial ability. - dan
 
You guys are working diligently on getting this thread locked down eh?:popCorn: The fact that our collective enemies thrive when we fight amongst ourselves sails right over your heads? :slap:
 
emerson said:
Daver likes to blame others. They have the right to reply. Review his other threads/posts to get an idea of his mindset and general politics.
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You mean calling it like it is.

Gun owner's have a long history of sabotaging themselves.

They also love to tell others how they should live, but "only want to be left alone"

A bunch of the vocal ones here have no clue about the real world, but it's OK... they can lablel the rest as lefties so they can rationalize anything.
 
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