Nagant 1895 Revolver and it's Unique Cartridge

[UnrulyCitizen]

Hey guys, so the 7.62x38mmR is a pretty unique cartridge and I didn't think it went into anything other than the gun it was designed for, BUT I came across an obscure Belgian revolver that apparently uses it as well. https://lugerman.com/product/belgum-antique-revolver-7-62x38r-nagant-not-russia/. Does anyone know of any firearms that actually use this cartridge other than these pistols? Does anyone know where I might be able to procure an antique Nagant 1895 or one of those weird antique Belgian ones? I ask specifically for antiques because of recent political developments limiting my options. And the only reason I ask for the 7.62 Nagant cartridge specifically is that I'm trying to limit the number of calibers that I own to save up on ammo costs and space, if everything uses the same stuff then I worry less about everything else. Thanks in advance guys.

 

[Lexthedestroyer]

Hey guys, so the 7.62x38mmR is a pretty unique cartridge and I didn't think it went into anything other than the gun it was designed for, BUT I came across an obscure Belgian revolver that apparently uses it as well. https://lugerman.com/product/belgum-antique-revolver-7-62x38r-nagant-not-russia/. Does anyone know of any firearms that actually use this cartridge other than these pistols? Does anyone know where I might be able to procure an antique Nagant 1895 or one of those weird antique Belgian ones? I ask specifically for antiques because of recent political developments limiting my options. And the only reason I ask for the 7.62 Nagant cartridge specifically is that I'm trying to limit the number of calibers that I own to save up on ammo costs and space, if everything uses the same stuff then I worry less about everything else. Thanks in advance guys.

To my understanding, not an antique here. I was looking at them a number of years ago, and I'm fairly certain. They were still restricted (now prohibited, essentially). Someone else chime in and correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[KotKotofeich]

Antique classifiable russian nagants are very rare and expensive just for collector value. I own a 1898 example (restricted) and have seen 1897 Liege made ones a couple times but was never fast enough.

 

[vagrantviking]

Antique classifiable russian nagants are very rare and expensive just for collector value. I own a 1898 example (restricted) and have seen 1897 Liege made ones a couple times but was never fast enough.

Have to agree with this. Not sure I've ever seen an antique one listed anywhere but know they exist.
Thanks for the link to the Belgian revolver. I didn't know anyone else had ever used the cartridge either.

Compared to finding what you are looking for it will be much much easier to take up loading for another cartridge. Other than heeled bullets most are easier to load than the Nagant gas seal anyway.

 

[polkey]

The oldest one I've seen offered was a 1898 at auction a few years back, didn't notice it till after the auction ended though.

 

[UnrulyCitizen]

Antique classifiable russian nagants are very rare and expensive just for collector value. I own a 1898 example (restricted) and have seen 1897 Liege made ones a couple times but was never fast enough.

Do you remember how much they went for and where you saw them? I assume you can get a pre 1898 antique from America given their antique status laws there, but you probably have to jump through hoops to get it over here afterward.

 

[KotKotofeich]

It was over 5 years ago so those prices are not very relevant...

The one that stuck in my mind was a Gunbroker listing with a buy it now for 500, someone snapped it in minutes and ran all the way to the bank. There's a thread on Gunboards about it somewhere...

The others I've seen were in Europe, multiple thousands of euros, but under 10 (at the time).

Interesting that there's more than one 1898 in Canada - my understanding is they are pretty rare too.

Importing is really not a big deal if you manage to find one (and I will hate you forever of you do it before me ).