IN-STOCK: All-New TYPE 81 SR

JeffMan said:
It’s cracked at both pins, the cracks are spread 1/2 way through the width but not all the way. Oddly enough, the stock still feels solid - no wiggle, no wobble. My screw and washer are holding well.

Keep in mind; this is unfired, not stress tested, and i haven’t been doing any rough handling.

I think all of these will crack.

I’ll contact TI tomorrow. I have no problem holding on to the rifle until they send a replacement/ improved stock - I’m fairly handy mechanically (not so much with wood working), and at this stage in my life 2K isn’t a big hit on my wallet (not bragging as I’ve been on both ends of the spectrum).
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This sounds like cracked differently from what most people have seen, rather it's likely due to random torque horizontally... either way the root of these is the baby amount of meat around pins.

My local gun smith said the screw method could potentially bend the metal around the hole under recoil. He suggest the best fix would be find someone make an AR-Style metal or polymer insert into that area, and bolt the stock on with a 1/2-inch bolt... I hope Polytech can just forget about the two pins and do something similar in their fix...
 
tinviper said:
Yet somehow 100 year old enfield stocks are holding up.
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Wood moves, it does stabilize a bit over time but still moves, the movement combined with an obviously poor design is likely why some of the unused guns are already failing right out of the box.
Maybe the wood is kiln dried or air dried to an appropriate level, maybe not? I'm not saying it's the sole cause just a possibly contributing factor.

Take a look at the difference between this new design and the old enfields and it will possibly become more clear to you that it's an apples and manure comparison..... :)

It will be interesting to see what they come up with for an improved connection.
 
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TTTimothy said:
This sounds like cracked differently from what most people have seen, rather it's likely due to random torque horizontally... either way the root of these is the baby amount of meat around pins.
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My cracks look identical to all the others, just not all the way to the other side of the receiver yet.

For what it’s worth, I’ve tried to work some wood glue into the crack. I don’t think it’ll do much, but better to try something.
 
I was looking at the picture in the original post of this thread. Anyone else see this? I didn't go through the entire thread to see if this was pointed out. Cracked??
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Pretty sure TI will have their hands full in the spring with all the broken stocks. They are claiming that only few are effected but it is just a matter of time and unsatisfied customers. The whole batch needs new stocks and for sure I will not put a screw in mine as a solution. We already heard that a buyer consulted a gunsmith who said "no" to this. TI is also claiming that this is a warranty issue. I don't think so, this is a design problem (a moderator on here pointed this out already, so I'd say we are safe with this suggestion) which makes the product unsafe and unusable for it's intended use.

If the stock cracks during it's intended use and somebody gets hurt, TI will have a lot more to deal with than replacing wooden stocks. Their knowledge of the problem has already been very well documented.

Is anybody aware that TI contacted any buyer of this potentially serious safety concern? Nope. Head in the sand strategy.
 
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fritzhanzel said:
Pretty sure TI will have their hands full in the spring with all the broken stocks. They are claiming that only few are effected but it is just a matter of time and unsatisfied customers. The whole batch needs new stocks and for sure I will not put a screw in mine as a solution. We already heard that a buyer consulted a gunsmith who said "no" to this. TI is also claiming that this is a warranty issue. I don't think so, this is a design problem (a moderator on here pointed this out already, so I'd say we are safe with this suggestion) which makes the product unsafe and unusable for it's intended use.

If the stock cracks during it's intended use and somebody gets hurt, TI will have a lot more to deal with than replacing wooden stocks. Their knowledge of the problem has already been very well documented.

Is anybody aware that TI contacted any buyer of this potentially serious safety concern? Nope. Head in the sand strategy.
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I don’t think it’s a serious safety concern. I guess it could be, under the wrong circumstances, but stocks break on many rifles and it hasn’t resulted in any injuries that I’m aware of.

TI will sort it out. My guess is a batch of reinforced stocks will be produced and made available to early adopters.

I also don’t think my reinforcement screw will bend the back of the receiver trunnion. I’m not a gunsmith but I am formally trained as a machinist - even tho I’ve never been employed as such (became an LEO right out of school)

It’s disappointing about the stocks but that’s all it is at this point. In a few months it’ll be one for the history books.
 
So enough about the stock issue, lets share some mods on the rifle,

- added a rail using the handguard screw and a threaded wood insert into the wood handguard (there is a lot of meat there unlike the stock lol)
- modified safety for 90 degree throw
- printed magazine pulls because it makes the mags easier to grab and insert
- reinforced stock with 6mm threaded insert and 6mm hex screw, head ground to fit (if it breaks still I'm 3d printing a custom stock)
- linseed oil finish on it

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/8o89qrndmil8ditqlvfg9/h?dl=0&rlkey=3aiak11zefk6dn5cm3t12hogi
 
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Looks good cellingcat.

You got any rounds down the pipe?

I keep intending to take mine out, but something always comes up.
 
unfortunately ZERO due to life getting in the way right now, but I got to tinker with it in the meantime! I did a 6mm hex insert for my stock reinforcement too, but if the stock breaks I'm 3d printing one so not too worried
 
ceilingcat said:
So enough about the stock issue, lets share some mods on the rifle,

- added a rail using the handguard screw and a threaded wood insert into the wood handguard (there is a lot of meat there unlike the stock lol)
- modified safety for 90 degree throw
- printed magazine pulls because it makes the mags easier to grab and insert
- reinforced stock with 6mm threaded insert and 6mm hex screw, head ground to fit (if it breaks still I'm 3d printing a custom stock)
- linseed oil finish on it

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/8o89qrndmil8ditqlvfg9/h?dl=0&rlkey=3aiak11zefk6dn5cm3t12hogi
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LOVE the rail/bipod set up, might just have to do that too
 
JeffMan said:
I don’t think it’s a serious safety concern. I guess it could be, under the wrong circumstances, but stocks break on many rifles and it hasn’t resulted in any injuries that I’m aware of.

TI will sort it out. My guess is a batch of reinforced stocks will be produced and made available to early adopters.

I also don’t think my reinforcement screw will bend the back of the receiver trunnion. I’m not a gunsmith but I am formally trained as a machinist - even tho I’ve never been employed as such (became an LEO right out of school)

It’s disappointing about the stocks but that’s all it is at this point. In a few months it’ll be one for the history books.
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My exact thoughts. A screw is only going to last so long. It WILL fail. Our best bet is to get Sigmaco (who’s been making us our cool handguards) to figure something out with the stock.
 
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