I did shoot a group with a taped muzzle, and zero effect on accuracy. But that makes perfect sense, given that the bullet never touches the tape. The air being pushed by the bullet blows the tape off of the muzzle.
Barrel Cleaning - Boresnake
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Yes, indeed. 5 shot group retaping after each shot, and another 5 shot group with shots 1,2 & 4 taped, and 3 & 5 not taped,
in 3 different rifles.
Tape had absolutely no effect on accuracy whatsoever in 6mm Remington, 270 Winchester and my 308 Norma Magnum.
I have shot at least 100 head of game with a taped muzzle, from 30 yards to 450 yards. Never had a fear that the tape
would cause me grief. The tape is gone before the bullet ever reaches the muzzle, since the air pressure ruptures it
first. Dave.
It is better to have one and not need it , than it is to need it and not have it.
Doesnt matter if it is a bore snake a multi piece cleaning rod or some 3M tape.
There are so many variables to personal opinion and choice.
Sure is funny to read some of these replies though.
The only thing I may have missed is ones opinion as to whether a Trojan brand french safe is better because it is ribbed or lubed.
What say yea ?
Regards.
Rob
Doesnt matter if it is a bore snake a multi piece cleaning rod or some 3M tape.
There are so many variables to personal opinion and choice.
Sure is funny to read some of these replies though.
The only thing I may have missed is ones opinion as to whether a Trojan brand french safe is better because it is ribbed or lubed.
What say yea ?
Regards.
Rob
Of course lubed! Because anything lubed is better, no?
Opinions are not all equal. When you have guys telling you that they are removing stuck bore snakes professionally there is a problem. That isn’t opinion either.
Tape on a muzzle blows off from the increasing air pressure as the bullet travels down the bore ... and as one of many thousands who have tested the accuracy of a taped muzzle and a bare muzzle... the tape makes no difference in accuracy nor point of aim...
Really, isn't the best answer to this, the same as the same as the one given about bore snakes?
"When the top competitive shooters start using tape to cover their muzzles, I will consider using tape myself.."
For every fella that says they have shot a group with tape and had no on effect accuracy, there is another that has and found that it did. Kinda like whether or not boresnakes work, or not. Or a damaged crown affects accuracy, or not, or...
And when someone says that all opinions are not created equal...well...that's great.
Just to bring a bit of levity to the whole conversation...
R.
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Really, isn't the best answer to this, the same as the same as the one given about bore snakes?
"When the top competitive shooters start using tape to cover their muzzles, I will consider using tape myself.."
For every fella that says they have shot a group with tape and had no on effect accuracy, there is another that has and found that it did. Kinda like whether or not boresnakes work, or not. Or a damaged crown affects accuracy, or not, or...
And when someone says that all opinions are not created equal...well...that's great.
Just to bring a bit of levity to the whole conversation...
R.
Nobody is claiming that a taped muzzle increases accuracy, rather we are saying that a taped muzzle has zero effect on accuracy if the barrel is clean, so there would be no advantage for competitive shooters to tape muzzles. If taping a muzzle did increase accuracy, then all top level shooters would be taping muzzles. The top level shooters do use proper rods and patches though, rather than bore snakes, because the rods/patches do provide an advantage for them.
Thats great?
I've heard opinion from too many people whose opinions I value, that taping a muzzle has no negative impact on accuracy, to believe otherwise. It's cheap insurance in my opinion if you are going through some rough terrain. I do keep a cleaning rod back at the vehicle, just in case. It could help me, or someone else. Also, it might be needed in the event of something unexpected, like a stuck case.
Just shot 600 yards with a taped muzzle. Three minutes ago. Do whatever you want with your muzzle I could care less. But it has zero effect on your accuracy. Why I would shoot regularly from a bench with it is beyond me, but if you are out of doors hunting it’s not a bad idea. People can whine all they want about it but I have zero interest in collecting crap in my bore. Zero.
Speaking of opinions that aren't equal. A fella could shoot to 6000 yards with a taped muzzle... and not mention if he actually hit what he was aiming at? To prove what? That bore snakes work?
Again, in very typical CGN fashion, we've gone from bore snakes, to bench rest accuracy, to condoms, to taped muzzles. What's next?
What's in the pack, Chuck? Just for another change of subject.
R.
Again, in very typical CGN fashion, we've gone from bore snakes, to bench rest accuracy, to condoms, to taped muzzles. What's next?
What's in the pack, Chuck? Just for another change of subject.
R.
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That is the nature of forums, it always or at least often get side tracked by a few comments… take what you need leave what you don’t, make the comment you want but be sure that some one will reply to it in a way you won’t like or agree with… leave it or fight it lol!
Nice SG. SOLO/3300?
Just shot 600 yards with a taped muzzle. Three minutes ago. Do whatever you want with your muzzle I could care less. But it has zero effect on your accuracy. Why I would shoot regularly from a bench with it is beyond me, but if you are out of doors hunting it’s not a bad idea. People can whine all they want about it but I have zero interest in collecting crap in my bore. Zero.
Well, in that case I will consider it operator error ....
Been using versions of bore snakes since 1986 and have not had one get stuck.
Not saying it aint gonna happen, just saying it has not happened to me yet.
Rob
Take a proper bore guide with a proper coated rod and put a proper patch thru a dirty bore. Now take that same patch and keep pushing it thru the bore. Thats what ur doing with any Boresnake. Hopefully I remember all the members who have admitted to using them so I never buy a firearm off them! In this day and age all I have to say is you should know better but obviously lazy to not do the job correctly. As far as a taped muzzle goes. Theres those that know how to prevent failure and the rest. I have friends in both JTF2 and CSOR and they regularly tape their muzzles and pretty sure we know how they can shoot. I would think if barrel manufacturers and custom rifle makers tell us not to use them its because theyre not any PHUKING good. But some need to be beaten with a stupid stick and still will remain the dullest knife in the drawer. My $1.23 with inflation and Turdeau ness
