I wouldnt want to shoot any shotgun shell youll ever load. I highly doubt you could get 380 grains of powder in a 20 gauge shell. When I loaded target rounds with 1 1/8 oz in the 12 gauge it was only 16.5 to 20 grains depending on powder/primer/wad and hull configuration. I highly doubt a 20 would be loaded with a T sized pellet and pretty sure this is a size designation for steel and not lead! Like I said previously,just cut one open? not that difficult.
GRAINS - What is this referring to? EDIT WITH PICS
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I wouldnt want to shoot any shotgun shell youll ever load. I highly doubt you could get 380 grains of powder in a 20 gauge shell. When I loaded target rounds with 1 1/8 oz in the 12 gauge it was only 16.5 to 20 grains depending on powder/primer/wad and hull configuration. I highly doubt a 20 would be loaded with a T sized pellet and pretty sure this is a size designation for steel and not lead! Like I said previously,just cut one open? not that difficult.
I would hate to say how much of my favoured upland hunting ammo purchased over the years has 'grains' measure on the boxes. Frankly I never notice that everyone had stopped, I mean if they have. I'm a little confused here.
The 380 grains likely refers to weight of shot. About 3/4 ounce.
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- Western Manitoba
I think OP has asked a good question - if you were going out for a whitetail in shotgun only zone would you take that ammo? Or going out for ruffed grouse?? Or would it matter to you??
- Location
- Western Manitoba
I am sure that you will take that up with BPI about how they size and market their chilled lead shot.
Not likely because I havent reloaded shotgun shells for many years. Component shortages and the high costs its just as cheap and easier to buy loaded rounds. I only ever bought Hummason shot. As far as the whitetail or ruffed grouse conundrum. If your to cheap to cut open a shell I highly doubt youd buy the license for either. Not a bad idea to pattern a gun prior to hunting game. I personally think everything we hunt deserves to be dispatched as quickly and humanely as possible.
"PLOMB" to the left of the shot weight, translates to "lead", so it would seem to me that 12 grains refers to the weight of each individual pellet. Weird way of doing things, but it is French, so...
blasted_saber
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The issue of course is that it's not clear what it's referring to, and without another figure stating the shot size I'm really kind of guessing. It's just strange to not have shot size, this day and age anyways.
I bought these because they're a cool old box of shells. I have no intention of cutting one open to see what's in it as I have enough 20g ammo to last me a lifetime at the rate I go through it.
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I'd post it in the "French" section of CGN... as we do have a number of French/Belgian shooters, I'm sure someone is familiar with either the brand and/or their way of listing stuff.
- BTW, it's OK to post stuff in English in there, as 99% of the guys (and gals) can write (some sort) of English
- BTW, it's OK to post stuff in English in there, as 99% of the guys (and gals) can write (some sort) of English
^^ This was going to be my comment. Cut a shell open and weigh the shot charge, individual pellet weight and weight of the power charge all in grains (if you have a scale). That will give you some data to work with. Then you’ll be the resident expert on les cartouches Francais des Hawkesbury.
^^ This was going to be my comment. Cut a shell open and weigh the shot charge, individual pellet weight and weight of the power charge all in grains (if you have a scale). That will give you some data to work with. Then you’ll be the resident expert on les cartouches Francais des Hawkesbury.
As suggested in post 12 and again in post 21. So now four times in total to cut open a shell and reveal everything from shot size to powder charge. Seems fairly simple and a follow up to answer all the questions would be nice.
