T81 safety mods

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G.Mitchell

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I’m looking to get a pair of T81 rifles but I just can’t get past that 180 degree safety.

I’m used to an AR safety and wonder if anyone makes a safety for the T81 with the same rotation?

Also I’ve seen mention of an AK style safety. Any of them that work being sold?

Any help is most appreciated.
 
If you are concerned about the functionality of a rifle's safety, the best course is to NOT SCREW WITH IT. If there is one part of a rifle you should not bugger around with, its the safety.

Its a Type 81, not an AR15. Adapt to the rifle.
 
Appreciate the comments all. I get the train to the rifle points but it’s not me I’m concerned with. I’ve simplified the firearms I have so they’re all AR style safeties to make teaching my wife and kids easier. They won’t practice or train as much as me so simplicity in manual of arms is a priority. Yeah I miss out on other cool guns but for what I’m trying to achieve I think the trade off is worth it.
 
Waste of money.

Me neither uses safety, it bothers me.

For you ^, just make sure your wife won't point the gun at you. Let her get her PAL.
 
Idk… teaching the proper basics of firearm safety negates any “preferred” safety switch preference. If this is a legit safety issue… You are doing it wrong.
 
BeaverMeat said:
Idk… teaching the proper basics of firearm safety negates any “preferred” safety switch preference. If this is a legit safety issue… You are doing it wrong.
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I get what you are saying but… I am dad to 7 and there is real benefit in simplicity when teaching a family this large. Safety and operation familiarity simplifies things incredibly. Right now anyone of my kids can show how to safely load and unload my 9mm, 5.56, and .308 rifles as they are virtually the same.

If the ATRS Sporter were still readily available I’d build a few more of them in 7.62x39 and be done with it.

Seems the WK181 might be a better option anyways.
 
G.Mitchell said:
Appreciate the comments all. I get the train to the rifle points but it’s not me I’m concerned with. I’ve simplified the firearms I have so they’re all AR style safeties to make teaching my wife and kids easier. They won’t practice or train as much as me so simplicity in manual of arms is a priority. Yeah I miss out on other cool guns but for what I’m trying to achieve I think the trade off is worth it.
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The danger with buggering with the mechanical safety is the risk of screwing it up so that it doesn't work properly or fails and the one thing a safety can't do is fail. A mechanical failure would be worse than a training / familiarity issue. We have all used a myriad of different firearms with different safeties. It just takes a bit of focus and attention to detail.

The two worst sounds in the world are a gun that goes bang when it should go click and a gun that goes click when it should go bang.
 
I Dont Care About You said:
The danger with buggering with the mechanical safety is the risk of screwing it up so that it doesn't work properly or fails and the one thing a safety can't do is fail. A mechanical failure would be worse than a training / familiarity issue. We have all used a myriad of different firearms with different safeties. It just takes a bit of focus and attention to detail.

The two worst sounds in the world are a gun that goes bang when it should go click and a gun that goes click when it should go bang.
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I agree.

When I had my VZ58 I messed around with safeties that were supposed to reverse rotation direction, be ambi, etc and none worked as well as the stock safety.

I agree that a bit of weapon familiarization is all that’s needed but again I’m looking to teach kids varying from near no interest to a great deal of interest. None of my kids get to skip learning how to use the firearms we have.
 
svt1940 said:
Only thing i dont like about the Type 81 is the LH safety because it interfere with side rail scope mount. I wish a RH safety be available without having to get the whole kit.
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Since the VZ58 and AK had their safeties on the right side of the gun, it feels more natural to have the Type 81 set up the same way.

I don't know about anyone else but I find it annoying to rotate the safety with my thumb effectively when it is mounted on the left side of the gun.
 
G.Mitchell said:
I get what you are saying but… I am dad to 7 and there is real benefit in simplicity when teaching a family this large. Safety and operation familiarity simplifies things incredibly. Right now anyone of my kids can show how to safely load and unload my 9mm, 5.56, and .308 rifles as they are virtually the same.

If the ATRS Sporter were still readily available I’d build a few more of them in 7.62x39 and be done with it.

Seems the WK181 might be a better option anyways.
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I don't mean to be rude but if they can't understand that there will be differences to manual of arms for various guns then why even teach them? No two gun is exactly the same. Teach them as intended or perhaps they need a new teacher.
 
Trapanese said:
I don't mean to be rude but if they can't understand that there will be differences to manual of arms for various guns then why even teach them? No two gun is exactly the same. Teach them as intended or perhaps they need a new teacher.
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Not being rude in return but there is something for simplicity as well. Many people settled on the AR15 pattern and have it in a wide variety of calibers, and gauges, to fill all their needed roles. While we cannot really do that in Canada this simplicity isn't unheard of.

Sure there are a wide variety of firearms to chose from but choosing to own what is easy to train, and cross train, on is not an issue with my teaching. My kids are better with firearms than many adults. Again simplicity in a house of 9 has real merit too.

I have owned and used a wide variety of firearms. Some of the kids are simply not into guns. Having guns that all function close to the same also has benefit for those not overly interested in learning but still needing to know how to safely operate what we do have.

I get your perspective but this isn't a get a better trainer issue and isn't a poorly thought out idea either.

If I lived in the USA I would have AR15 pattern rifles and shotguns, possibly no other long gun. This doesn't reflect on my skill or ability to train.
 
I honestly prefer index finger operated right side safetys over right side thumb ones. It just seems intuitive to me and encourages better trigger discipline. The 90 degree throw i have on my Folder is perfect.
 
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