Best low recoil full-powered cartridge for Wife's first hunting rifle?

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I've narrowed it down to 6.5x55 and 7mm-08. I don't currently reload so will be relying on factory ammo.

Pros of 6.5X55.
-Already own a rifle in this with a decent stockpile of ammo.
-Soft, flat shooter.

Cons of 6.5x55
-New production rifle selection in 6.5x55 is not very common, epecially on the budget end of rifles
-Some say the 6.5x55 is a little light for NA Moose.

Pros of 7mm-08
-Seems to carry more energy down range vs 6.5.
-Increased hunting range
-Commonly available in affordable rifle offerings (Ruger, Mossberg, Weatherby etc).

Cons of 7mm-08
-It will be an additional cartridge i'll have to add to the stable....which means another reason for myself to buy a rifle chambered in this..
-Factory ammo seems to be slightly more expensive than 6.5x55 but more common on store shelves.
 
OP - There are tons of inexpensive 6.5 x 55 rifles around, thanks to Tradex et al. Go to the Intersurplus website and have a look. You can get a nice Husky 1600 for 5-6 bills, and your wife will have a nicer rifle than yours.:stirthepot2:
 
OP - There are tons of inexpensive 6.5 x 55 rifles around, thanks to Tradex et al. Go to the Intersurplus website and have a look. You can get a nice Husky 1600 for 5-6 bills, and your wife will have a nicer rifle than yours.:stirthepot2:

But mine is a Husky haha, M38 Mauser.
 
given your non-reloading status and your 6.5 ammo surplus it would seem 6.5 swede is your best option...also the current over-supply of good quality cheap used swede rifles makes its choice even more appealing....as long as you place your shots well there is nothing wrong with a 6.5 on moose...they penetrate well with proper bullets and deliver just enough energy....moose are not hard to kill like elk....just take your time and place your shot/s well and then WAIT awhile....the old timers used to say wait after the shot as long as it takes to slowly smoke a cigarette....moose seem to take a while to die...if you go after them too fast they can run a long ways...
 
I would suggest the most comfortable hunting firearm is a gas operated semi-automatic .308 calibre with a 6-position adjustable stock in a dark non-reflective colour.
 
For hunting game up to and including moose? Don't think so Looky.

You kill a lot of moose? Or shoot a lot of them?

Moose die pretty easy in my experience. Not many moose shake off a bullet through the lungs and head for parts unknown never to be seen again.
 
Some of your Wives are more manly than Me...thats for sure :p :D


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I couldnt split a single significant point of interest between the 4 mentioned............... esp if talking reloading.
 
Some of your Wives are more manly than Me...thats for sure :p :D

I was at the local range last fall checking a load for my 7-08 Kimber Ascent (this rifle comes standard with a brake).

There were 4 young women sighting in their rifles for moose season at the same time (the heaviest one of these 4 girls weighed no more than 115 lbs).

All 4 were shooting un-braked 300 win mags....definitely NOT your average sissy city girls.... :)
 
Of the 3 6.5 cartridges, performance is so similar that no animal is going to know the difference as to whether it was shot with a 260, 6.5CM or Swede, when all using the same bullet weight in factory loaded ammunition.
The 7mm-08 is also very similar in performance with the same weight bullet. (The 7x57 is a ballistic twin, with ammo options usually loaded a little heavier)
The variation in velocity, retained energy and on-game performance isn't big enough to make a big difference on game at normal hunting ranges.

The main issue for you will be the fit and balance of the rifle for your wife. Look for a model that is either woman friendly, or shorter/lighter as found in many youth models, so that it is easier for her to handle. Browning Micro, Weatherby Camilla, Savage Lady Hunter, or even Mossberg's model made specifically for the ladies.
While muzzle brakes reduce felt recoil; they do produce a lot more noise, which is what many new shooters react to as much to, as they do the felt recoil of cartridges of similar performance. Shorter barrels also put that muzzle blast closer to the shooter, and this could be an issue. Best to have her shooting with ear plugs and muffs at the range to lessen the impact of the noise on her as she gets comfortable shooting.

If at all possible, try to get rifles she can try before purchasing, such as friend's, rifles at the gun club, or even used guns on the rack at the lgs; buy your own ammo for her to try...may take some $, but is a worthwhile investment to buy once, buy right.
Did with for the wife and daughter.
Wife ended up with a 250 Savage in a Ruger No.1 and a Steyr Mountain Classic in 7mm-08 (she is recoil sensitive), and we ended up installing a LimbSaver pad on the Steyr for her.
Daughter ended up with a Rem 700 Titanium in 270 Win (not as recoil sensitive as the wife).

When working in the local gun stores, I put a lot of first time shooters (men, women and youth) into various rifles in 6.5x55, 260 Rem, 6.5 CM and 7mm-08.

Keep shot distances on game to shorter distances until she has gained more experience and confidence in shooting/hunting from field shooting positions and/or off shooting sticks, as these are different than what she will learn at the bench while getting her started.

As for moose, there is a big difference in body size between the Shiras, Canadian and Alaska/Yukon subspecies. Moose are not overly tough to kill, as mentioned above, as they just do not have the tenacity of life that whitetails and elk have. Many moose have been killed with smaller calibers...but the animal is usually unalarmed, resting or feeding quietly, and not excited and full of adrenaline. Place the bullet in the double lung shot placement, and they will not go far, if not pushed, regardless of cartridge/caliber, as mentioned above.
 
I was at the local range last fall checking a load for my 7-08 Kimber Ascent (this rifle comes standard with a brake).

There were 4 young women sighting in their rifles for moose season at the same time (the heaviest one of these 4 girls weighed no more than 115 lbs).

All 4 were shooting un-braked 300 win mags....definitely NOT your average sissy city girls.... :)

they would Bury me..... it would be fun though... i love canadian women hahahaha
 
My wife just got her PAL and is looking for her first big game hunting rifle to take on our deer and moose hunts. Being slightly recoil sensitive, I am trying to avoid the likes of 30.06's, .308's, 45-70 (all of which she has shot) etc. and am ideally looking for a cartridge that produces no more than 15 ft-lbs of felt recoil.

A few options that have crossed my mind:

.260 Remington - I know very little about this cartridge and how commonly available it is. - Produces upwards of 13ft-lbs of recoil and 140 grain bullets produce 2,351 foot pounds of muzzle energy.

6.5x55 Swede - I own a Swedish Mauser in 6.5 Swede and can attest to it's soft shooting nature, however the Mauser is fairly robust hunting rifle. The 160 grain bullets produce 12.7 ft-lbs of recoil and 2,266 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.

6.5 Creedmoor - Known as a long range target cartridge, how well does the 6.5 translate into a large game hunting round? 143 grain bullets producing 12 ft-lbs of recoil and 2,315 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.

7mm-08. - Necked down version of the .308, one of the guys at our Moose camp uses his every year so I know that it will do the job. 150 grain bullet producing 13.9 ft-lbs of recoil and 2,339 ft-lbs of muzzle energy.

If one were to select a mild recoiling cartridge for a bolt action hunting rifle to be used on everything up to Moose, which of the above would you lean towards?

What are some other cartridges worth considering that I may have missed? Cost per round and availability are also factors to consider.

6.5 Grendel, ruger American ranch in mdt chassis, 3-9x40 Trijicon Accupoint green dot in 1" talley lows, 8 1/4 lbs, 6.5 ft/lbs recoil energy, adjust to fit her and anyone else very quickly (yourself included), will smash moose and everything else in the ribs to 400 yards no problem, she would never need anything else. Me and the kids are 5 seasons in on 14 big game kills and a bonus wolf. 10-420 yards, moose, bighorn sheep, muley, whitetails (for a bunch), 3 black bears and the kids have 6 of those 15 kills. They find that illum. reticle dot very intuitive and we watch most of it happen in the scope. She would never need anything else. You would have best cost per round, unlimited barrel life, and everything 100% off the shelf. We only use factory hornady black 123gr eld-m ammo, sub moa to 500-550 yards I've shot it on steel. Built the rig on my kitchen table.
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6.5 Grendel, ruger American ranch in mdt chassis, 3-9x40 Trijicon Accupoint green dot in 1" talley lows, 8 1/4 lbs, 6.5 ft/lbs recoil energy, adjust to fit her and anyone else very quickly (yourself included), will smash moose and everything else in the ribs to 400 yards no problem, she would never need anything else. Me and the kids are 5 seasons in on 14 big game kills and a bonus wolf. 10-420 yards, moose, bighorn sheep, muley, whitetails (for a bunch), 3 black bears and the kids have 6 of those 15 kills. They find that illum. reticle dot very intuitive and we watch most of it happen in the scope. She would never need anything else. You would have best cost per round, unlimited barrel life, and everything 100% off the shelf. We only use factory hornady black 123gr eld-m ammo, sub moa to 500-550 yards I've shot it on steel. Built the rig on my kitchen table.
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Easy to find ammo for too... LOL. and about 10% higher pressure for reduced barrel life; published velocities lower than 6.5 x 55 (not by much) and not really suited for bullets above 130 gr. I would not consider it a moose rifle, and again, no benefits over the CM which is more available or the 6.5 x 55. It will run in an AR sized mag I believe.
 
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Easy to find ammo for too... LOL. and about 10% higher pressure for reduced barrel life; published velocities lower than 6.5 x 55 (not by much) and not really suited for bullets above 130 gr. I would not consider it a moose rifle, and again, no benefits over the CM which is more available or the 6.5 x 55. It will run in an AR sized mag I believe.

any factory ammo shooters should know by now with the cycles that you stock up and keep on hand, couple suppliers I commonly use get it plenty enough I won't have to look for a long long long time, not sure how anyone would try and function like the old days only having a box and half on hand and then go look for another box a few years later? so...lots of 6.5 Grendel's sold in Canada, lots sell the ammo, you don't buy a box a time, you buy a case when it's in stock lol, and because they are so fun to shoot you keep a lot more around than you would a typical big game rifle, great range day fun, predator calling fun etc.

this is a 52,000 psi cartridge, so about 10,000 psi lower than most, they do that for auto-loaders, it's about the highest barrel life you'll find in anything that can smack deer at 400 yards no prob

yup it's 123gr bullet has about the same sd (penetration ability) as a 168gr 30 cal bullet...is that not adequate for moose? my bull moose at 125 yards went 15 yards, anyhow we meat hunt primarily now and not chasing giants on big dollars etc. so take that for what it's worth, it will work if you do your part and this sort of cartridge more people can do their part a lot easier, most rodeos happen with the guys who are over-gunned not the other way around

yes it's micro length action, AR length action (same as .223) cartridge, this is a drawback to the short action 6.5 CM, I agree the 6.5 CM is the most versatile cartridge available and would be the top choice for most, and the 6.5 CM also has excellent barrel life, way more platforms available for the short action, and you get higher bc and sd bullets in the CM to fight wind/drop further and penetrate deeper also, the 6.5 CM a solid 600 yard performer, amazing what I does for 41 grains of powder, but the Grendel is same for it's 30 grains of powder, realistically most will not shoot well past 450 (Grendel fits into this window with zero fat), few will be solid to 600 and very few are consistent past 600...so the Grendel actually falls inside 450 with zero fat

recoil energy is about 38% less with the Grendel than the 6.5 CM so that's a pretty significant point when talking about light hitters for the family ;) you're talking single digit ft/lbs recoil energy, equivalent to a 22-250, although feels like a .243 to me due to the heavier bullet push, you will not pull the trigger on a 6.5 Grendel and think it's a .223 ;)

if I was going short action, even though it hasn't taken off as fully as the 6.5 CM, I'd look hard at the 6 CM with 108gr factory ammo before the 6.5 CM in this particular ask, zero at 250 and call it day, it will become just about as popular as the 6.5 CM, it will recoil a little less and the fam will shoot it a little better, ruger predator in 6cm, chassis with adjustable butt stock, the Trijicon green dot scope...also an awesome choice but barrel life will be a factor if shooting a lot

so yes the 6.5 Grendel has some key of benefits over the 6.5 CM for this ask, recoil champ, watch more in scope, barrel life closer to a .22lr than most any other 400 yard capable big game cartridge, meaning lots of practice possible due to light recoil, barrel life and affordability, the factory ammo quite a bit less dollars than the 6.5 CM/6 CM ammo

it is hard to beat the 6.5 CM, but you can specialize really well with a couple other 21st century winners, the 6mm-ARC too new to recommend but it will become a darling option soon as well, it's basically a 6mm Grendel, just as the 6 CM is fast becoming a darling as well, for recoil and watching in scope advantages over the 6.5 options...some mpbr advantages also
 
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