Western crown land VS Eastern private land

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Reserve Fauniques are strictly regulated. And Zecs .... well they are a different story all together ...


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0faustus0 said:
Out east .... accessible crown land looks like this .....


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This gives me a lot of pause, thank you for sharing. Fiefdoms on public land, wtf lol? Didn't think that mentality was present outside of cities and cottage country in Qc... then again I grew up in Montreal's west island and never spent time in the bush like I have in BC and AB.

Even with private land, I can see these types of people putting up a fight if they were allowed permission in the past...
 
Midnight Rider said:
Property prices are important , but there are other factors as well to consider such as the job rate , traveling time , temperature/climate , quality of life , recreational activities , shopping/services , political climate/govt. services ,and access to good schools and healthcare .
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This is what has kept us in BC for so long, everything you've listed keeps us right here in the South Okanagan. The pull back east is no mortgage (which allows for more travelling) and proximity to family.
 
Take a hard look at NW Ontario. Real estate is very reasonable, large acreages next to crown are at times available. Once you get south of Sault St. Marie the world speeds up considerably and gets very expensive. Your actually best to stay NW of Thunder Bay.
 
Overlander2018 said:
This gives me a lot of pause, thank you for sharing. Fiefdoms on public land, wtf lol? Didn't think that mentality was present outside of cities and cottage country in Qc... then again I grew up in Montreal's west island and never spent time in the bush like I have in BC and AB.

Even with private land, I can see these types of people putting up a fight if they were allowed permission in the past...
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There is lots of public crown land .... but wherever a road goes (and the territory is not regulated) .... hunters have claimed their spot as you can see from the signs. And some hunters try to harass and intimidate newcomers .....

However, if you find a way to get off the beaten trail ..... there are lots of opportunities .... you just have to get a bit creative ..... floating down a river in a canoe .... or portaging into a lake system and where trucks and four wheelers can't get to.
 
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Those signs are a French thing, never seen anything like it in Ontario, in NWO if you block a logging road, look to have your truck destroyed
 
Overlander2018 said:
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Even with private land, I can see these types of people putting up a fight if they were allowed permission in the past...
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Yes, unfortunately ....

I bought 150 acres in Eastern Ontario around 10 years ago .... close to the Quebec border .... The locals had used the land as their unofficial four wheeler racing track and play ground. I put up gates and fences .... no trespassing signs and warnings .... But those fences and gates were torn down many times. It took me 3 -4 years fighting with those trespassers and the vandalism. Eventually all of it stopped .... but it took 3 -4 years ....

Today, 10 years later .... I do not have any trespassing incidents any more.
 
Lol, if I ever saw anything like these signs in bc I’d laugh my ass off, then I’d remove them and keep hunting. Just one more reason I’m glad I left ont/que for the western part of the country.
 
If you actually go east, instead of Upper Canada, you can have both.

New Brunswick: Vast tracts of public or logging company land. Cheap woodland.

I have 10 acres and can shoot bucks in my backyard. Behind my 10 acres is a massive crown land chunk that's also good hunting. Just up the road is a Class II Protected Natural Area that is rarely hunted despite holding deer and lots of ducks. I can always hunt the massive Musquash Estuary Class II PNA or go inland into the Loch Alva reserve.

It's true that some people have "their" spots, but there's so much land that you can easily find someplace else. Or learn to share. My first deer spot, shared it with another guy I didn't even know, year after year. He shot a buck opening day most years, let me sit there afterwards.

Nova Scotia should have similar opportunity, but if you really want wide open spaces, go to Newfoundland. No whitetails there, though; draw system for moose and caribou tags, but you can shoot two black bears a year every year.

COVID drove up woodlot prices in the east but I predict a decline in coming years. All the wannabe homesteaders will realize they aren't going to be #### Proenneke and leave back for Starbucks Land.
 
You will learn to love anywhere that you go. In my experience everywhere has its ups and downs. Land may be expensive where you are but it's probably not going to get any cheaper. The old adage of the best time to buy is 10 years ago is a good one. Any investment made now will grow over time. Maybe bite the bullet and buy where you love to be. It's only a payment and you can always work around that rather than living in regret.
 
I bought a 65 acre parcel in the Pontiac region ( NW of Ottawa) of QC about 8 years ago. It’s got bear, deer , grouse, rabbit. I have an 8 x 12 blind (10’ off the ground) that has a cot and wood stove. I also have 2 other permanent tree stands as well as 2 others I can throw up in 15 minutes ... anywhere I want. It’s my sanctuary. I probably enjoy the planning and the anticipation of the hunt as much as the actual hunt. I love my sanctuary.
 
Most of those cheap lots are no where near any services, schools etc, kids will grow to hate being so secluded and just hang out online all day.
Driving 30 minutes for milk and bread gets old fast especially in the winter.
 
I'll never leave BC, I love the mountains here. You're living in one of the most expensive areas in BC. Have you looked at other areas. Tumbler Ridge for instance, housing is cheap! right in hunting territory. You might not have acreage there but for hunting purposes it's not needed. jmo
 
“Although I have access to pretty much unlimited crown land out here, I'm just pulled towards living on acreage where my kids can just step outside and roam free, hunt, and just grow up how I wish I had grown up.”

Be careful of this as a motive.
I grew up as you described but my kids raised in the same environment didn’t. The difference is that my dog and my .22 were my social circle and entertainment comitee, totally different nowadays. I found that unless I instigated an outing and went along they lacked interest. They would have had more time in nature had we took a 2 week camping trip every summer.
 
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Signs like pictured above wouldn't last very long in most areas of SK. I know of one "outfitter/TV hero" that figures he should be able to post land he doesn't own. He is NOT popular with a LOT of people.
 
pete dobinson said:
I'll never leave BC, I love the mountains here. You're living in one of the most expensive areas in BC. Have you looked at other areas. Tumbler Ridge for instance, housing is cheap! right in hunting territory. You might not have acreage there but for hunting purposes it's not needed. jmo
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Been looking at Creston Valley, recently noticed small acreage at decent prices right in the middle of beautiful hunting country.
Less and less interested in moving back east after some research and just loving the mountains out here. Also just passed my CORE exam a couple weeks ago, so need to try out at least one hunting season out here before considering a move.
 
Overlander2018 said:
Been looking at Creston Valley, recently noticed small acreage at decent prices right in the middle of beautiful hunting country.
Less and less interested in moving back east after some research and just loving the mountains out here. Also just passed my CORE exam a couple weeks ago, so need to try out at least one hunting season out here before considering a move.
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My father in-law lived in Creston, he had a small acreage there. It's a beautiful area and I believe hunting would be good. I saw lots of whitetails anyway.
 
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