What abouy a 9mm Para bolt action rifle?

dk223 said:
Take a look at the Curtis Tactical CT700P. Interesting concept, remington 700 with a mag block that takes pistol mags. Obviously other work done to the rifle as well like barrel and bolt face changes, but noteworthy for this thread. Maybe someone from ATRS could shed some light on the practicality of building a 9mm bolt gun of their own design. Or maybe there is not enough interest to build such a thing. Perhaps someone smarter than me can can start a poll on this topic
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Or maybe a Ruger American with a colt SMG conversion block inside the Ruger's AR magwell and a barrel swap?
 
OkayShooter said:
I had a 9mm made to give the middle finger to the government, plus there were no commerical ones made. Unfortunately I had issues with getting it to feed, it fed crudely, sometimes, more I tried tweaking the worst it got. I only know of one other person in Canada with one, so probably busy to fix the mag portion. As he was one thar inspired me to want one. I just wasnt as techical as him.
So it's being remade into a single shot.

#### did good work on the adapting the barrel and getting it to shoot. Oops looks like I uploaded the pic of when I was figuring out the front sight height. It has a m1 carbine ear front sight on it now.


I personally would love to see a bolt action in common pistol caliber, or even single shots like H&R/TC.
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Nice looking build progress, DeLisle vibes! Did you have time to finish it?
 
romayama said:
Nice looking build progress, DeLisle vibes! Did you have time to finish it?
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Thanks.

No, I wasn't as good as you. I couldnt get the mag angles right. So it fed like dog ####, really chewed up the bullets and brass. Had to fiddle with the bolt back and forth for it to chamber. I sent it to just get a new reciever and regular bolt face, so it will just be a single shot.

I missed out on a 18.75" M31 barrel.
 
OkayShooter said:
Thanks.

No, I wasn't as good as you. I couldnt get the mag angles right. So it fed like dog ####, really chewed up the bullets and brass. Had to fiddle with the bolt back and forth for it to chamber. I sent it to just get a new reciever and regular bolt face, so it will just be a single shot.

I missed out on a 18.75" M31 barrel.
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I was thinking of 3D printing the mag adaptor for LE, and to integrate spring-loaded ejector in it. If I ever get to do that, will be happy to send you a piece. I saw a Suomi barrel three days ago on GP and missed it too. On the other hand, I have a contact for the person in Eastern Canada that can make a 9mm barrel for you from the factory blank for about $200 which is still a great deal.
I found that shooting straight 9mm becomes boring with time so I super hot-loaded them which makes them fun to shoot. The serious danger is to confuse them with the regular 9mm and load them into a pistol. So I used permanent red marker to mark them up. I also load those rifle-purposed 9mm with wasted mixed leftovers of the rifle powder and even once fired bullets, picked up in the snow. That is why I think 9x21 or 9x23 is a safer and fool-proof idea for the bolt rifles :)
 
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Ex3dy said:
Or maybe a Ruger American with a colt SMG conversion block inside the Ruger's AR magwell and a barrel swap?
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Liking the idea! Barrel is easy to swap on that one. 9mm can use 223 bolt face and 40sw/10mm can use 7.62x39/6.5 Grendel bolt face. The problem I can see is the ejector - it likely won't work on the pistol casings
 
romayama said:
I was thinking of 3D printing the mag adaptor for LE, and to integrate spring-loaded ejector in it. If I ever get to do that, will be happy to send you a piece. I saw a Suomi barrel three days ago on GP and missed it too. On the other hand, I have a contact for the person in Eastern Canada that can make a 9mm barrel for you from the factory blank for about $200 which is still a great deal.
I found that shooting straight 9mm becomes boring with time so I super hot-loaded them which makes them fun to shoot. The serious danger is to confuse them with the regular 9mm and load them into a pistol. So I used permanent red marker to mark them up. I also load those rifle-purposed 9mm with wasted mixed leftovers of the rifle powder and even once fired bullets, picked up in the snow. That is why I think 9x21 or 9x23 is a safer and fool-proof idea for the bolt rifles :)
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Thanks.You could look at 38 Super. You might have to change you mag catch as there won't be that spacer in the rear of the mag.

The more I think, the more a 357 mag Lee would be nice. Can shoot watch them fly down range 38 spl wadcutters to 357 mag.
 
It ain't 9mm Para, but it is a really cool and easy project.
Get a hailed out 1891 Mauser, screw on a 45 ACP barrel and install a wooden block with a concave top in the Mag well. That's it. No dicking with extractors, magwells...just none of it needs tweaking. Toughest part would be putting a set of irons on it.
Done, big bore pistol cartridge rifle right there.
Picked up a '91 with the top hand guard and magazine missing and the bbl cut to 22"... was gonna do it. The damn carbine is in such nice shape, I can't do it. Damn near perfect condition except the stated flaws.
Got a Destroyer...good enough.
No cred to building such a unit, not a Desile ( spelling?) so it's not got provenance. Sure easier though.
 
OkayShooter said:
Thanks.You could look at 38 Super. You might have to change you mag catch as there won't be that spacer in the rear of the mag.

The more I think, the more a 357 mag Lee would be nice. Can shoot watch them fly down range 38 spl wadcutters to 357 mag.
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It's easier fer me to see the hardcast boolits from my .45 acp Lee Enfield whizzing though the air at distance with the sun behind me. Fun stuff either way.
 

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tokguy said:
It ain't 9mm Para, but it is a really cool and easy project.
Get a hailed out 1891 Mauser, screw on a 45 ACP barrel and install a wooden block with a concave top in the Mag well. That's it. No dicking with extractors, magwells...just none of it needs tweaking. Toughest part would be putting a set of irons on it.
Done, big bore pistol cartridge rifle right there.
Picked up a '91 with the top hand guard and magazine missing and the bbl cut to 22"... was gonna do it. The damn carbine is in such nice shape, I can't do it. Damn near perfect condition except the stated flaws.
Got a Destroyer...good enough.
No cred to building such a unit, not a Desile ( spelling?) so it's not got provenance. Sure easier though.
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Back when I had this built, I wasn't shooting 45. Now I'm casting and shooting 45 more, I could consider a kit.
 
OkayShooter said:
Back when I had this built, I wasn't shooting 45. Now I'm casting and shooting 45 more, I could consider a kit.
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Really don't need a kit...it's pretty much screw a 45 ACP friendly bbl on there. Add sights and a magazine blank ( concave top is kind important)...just drop a 45 ACP onto the low spot, close the action and shoot.
Somewhere I've a picture of me holding the bolt with a 45 ACP hooked under the extractor. I appreciate the work folks put into those Delisle Lee Enfield units...very cool...very complicated.
This method is just sooooo easy. And the machining on a South America German built Mauser....sooooo nice. And it has 'Little Cap' & 'Clasped hands' stamps everywhere...cool units for sure
 
OkayShooter said:
Thanks.You could look at 38 Super. You might have to change you mag catch as there won't be that spacer in the rear of the mag.

The more I think, the more a 357 mag Lee would be nice. Can shoot watch them fly down range 38 spl wadcutters to 357 mag.
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357 LE would be awesome! I haven't seen the donor barrels available, ever.
 
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