What abouy a 9mm Para bolt action rifle?

OkayShooter said:
Then again, not many options other than semi autos. H&R don't build the Handi rifle anymore, same with Rossi rifle version. I haven't seen the CVA Scout here.

Armscor TCM 22 can be modded for 9mm but the base rifle you are looking at a grand. Then couple hundred for the 9mm barrel. Most mod AR 15 barrels. Well the only website I seen about this build.



Seeing how much the new 9mm lever is, I don't see a commerical 9mm bolt coming here for less than 1700.
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Prophet River and Canada's Gun Store both have CVA Scouts in stock.

I wonder if a 223Rem rifle would be capable of extracting 9mm if you put a different barrel on one, whether a CVA, Handi Rifle (not made anymore but they're not super rare on the EE either) or a Henry...
 
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OkayShooter said:
Armscor TCM 22 can be modded for 9mm but the base rifle you are looking at a grand. Then couple hundred for the 9mm barrel. Most mod AR 15 barrels. Well the only website I seen about this build.
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So back to the original question, or close to it: Does Armscor have a Canadian dealer? RIA mentions Cabelas, but they were very direct when asked if they'd order something in for me. HARD no...
 
Dark Alley Dan said:
So back to the original question, or close to it: Does Armscor have a Canadian dealer? RIA mentions Cabelas, but they were very direct when asked if they'd order something in for me. HARD no...
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Have you checked with either Prophet River or Irunguns to see if either of them could bring one in for you?
 
Suther said:
Prophet River and Canada's Gun Store both have CVA Scouts in stock.

I wonder if a 223Rem rifle would be capable of extracting 9mm if you put a different barrel on one, whether a CVA, Handi Rifle (not made anymore but they're not super rare on the EE either) or a Henry...
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Plunger ejector of a 223 bolt rifle unfortunately will not work on 9mm casings. They start flicking to the side too early. That is why all 9mm semis and pistols have ejectors fixed to the action and a slot along the bolt.
I have this idea in mind. 3D printed mag adaptor - should work on LE
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romayama said:
Plunger ejector of a 223 bolt rifle unfortunately will not work on 9mm casings. They start flicking to the side too early. That is why all 9mm semis and pistols have ejectors fixed to the action and a slot along the bolt.
I have this idea in mind. 3D printed mag adaptor - should work on LE
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I'll be willing to give it a shot. Because it seemed that you were able to get it to cycle well without pushing the barrel back and very little reciever work. I actually wish my gun fed better as dumping wasnt that big of a deal. But was a plus when it did.

I should see if I still have videos of the feeding and ejection fails.
 
Something to remember about the Delisle is that the barrel extends back into the receiver to shorten the bolt throw, and the breech of the barrel is counterbored and machined so that there is a hood that extends back over the bolt head. Rounds coming out of the magazine can't jump free.
 
romayama said:
Plunger ejector of a 223 bolt rifle unfortunately will not work on 9mm casings. They start flicking to the side too early. That is why all 9mm semis and pistols have ejectors fixed to the action and a slot along the bolt.
I have this idea in mind. 3D printed mag adaptor - should work on LE
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The rifles I listed are all break action single shots, although i now see i didn't specify that. I only own a Henry and its in 243, but there is no ejector on that design. The extractor is the same style as my single shot shotguns but with some flex in it so that the rimless case can slide into the chamber far enough for the extractor to catch the extractor groove.

The 223 rim is a bit smaller than 9mm, but depending on how much flex there is in the extractor it might be doable? I dunno. I'm just spitballing here...
 
tiriaq said:
Something to remember about the Delisle is that the barrel extends back into the receiver to shorten the bolt throw, and the breech of the barrel is counterbored and machined so that there is a hood that extends back over the bolt head. Rounds coming out of the magazine can't jump free.
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That is all correct. I also read that DeLisle had an inherent problem with ejection, and for that reason there is no documented use of it in the spec ops. Designers thought that .45 will eject as good as 303, but were they wrong
 
tiriaq said:
Something to remember about the Delisle is that the barrel extends back into the receiver to shorten the bolt throw, and the breech of the barrel is counterbored and machined so that there is a hood that extends back over the bolt head. Rounds coming out of the magazine can't jump free.
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That be true. Lots of careful work went into the De Lisle LE reworks to make 'em reliable performers.
See posts 25 & 26 below.
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?381929-Enfield-no-4-conversion-to-45ACP/page2
 
Update on the Armscor 22TCM rifles:

Prophet River tells me they can import them. Not sure if they're still in production or not. However, Clayton - very helpful fellow - found one on GunBroker that he could bring in if one was of a mind...
 
I converted a savage 112-J to 45ACP a few years ago. I just changd the bolt face to the 308win size and screwed on a heavy prefit 21” barrel. The action has no magazine cut out, and the trigger is fully adjustable.

I can drop the loaded round and chamber as smooth as silk!

The rifle is basicly a target/benchrest 45ACP. Not practical for almost anyone, but super fun on the gopher fields! The rifle shoots most 230 grain bullets around the 1-1/4” or better at 100.
I load to 45 super pressures and use a tactical scope with turrets to dial in shots from 100-150yds. Challenging trajectory that is accurate enough to adjust for and hit your target with siprising regularity! It is halarious fun!

Any savage .223 rifle with a blind blank inserted in the magazine well should work fine for a single shot 9mm.

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This is the rifle I was describing in the previous post
 

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The ejection is pretty positive. If i open the bolt slowly, it drops the empty right in the middle of the trough. If I open the bolt fast, the little case ejects completely about 90% of the time.

The biggest thing about this project that suprised me was how the accuracy improved as I jacked the pressures up. I am giessing the higher pressures are giving a more consistant burn. The SD’s are definitely lower.
 
I wonder if something like a Winchester Model 43 wouldn't make a good base for a 9mm project. Nice little rifle with an appropriately scaled action. Catch would be finding one with an appropriate price. I have a barrel from a Marlin Model 9 tucked away for such a sporting carbine...
A Remington Model 8 can be readily rebarreled to 7.62x39. When was the last time you saw a Model 8 priced low enough that it using it for a project wouldn't bring a tear to one's eye?
 
The post about pulling the extractor on a 12GA with inserts got me thinking.
I wonder if you machined off enough of the rim on the barrel insert so the extractor has nothing to grab you would have a quick change 12GA pump to 9mm that you have to flick the cases from.
 
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