Household grants help build food sovereignty for First Nation families and communitie
- Thread starter Thomas D'Arcy McGee
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Never said they were. They are rough communities and that kind of living creates rough individuals and it’s a cycle
I’d share a beer with you too Phil
Actually I’d just watch because I don’t drink
i do not either lol ...
Treaty’s do not guarantee any form of monthly payment and are all different in terms of what is provided. Most of BC is not even covered by treaty. Some treaties guarantee monetary recompense once or yearly but have not been adjusted for inflation so it is a pittance. An example: treaty 8 guarantees the descendants of the signatories “ cows and plows” a relatively recent suit resulted in a one time payment for the approximate worth of these things. Some treaties guarantee a box of ammo ever year. Many have a provision for a suit of clothes or “medicine chest” on reserve ( I think this applies to all numbered treaties?).
The word you are looking for is “status Indian” I’m thinking. I can’t speak to how much some individuals receive per month if they are receiving any kind of government funding but again having status does not ensure you will receive money from the government. It does have many negative effects like fee simple land not existing on reserve etc. It’s not really an advantage. Most “ benefits” of being status actually come from treaty. Status individuals do have access to programs like the one mentioned by op, and tax benefits ON RESERVE. I would rather have fee simple land and not be constantly getting ####ed from all sides by society at large but that’s just me
https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/1100100032294/1581869772685
https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/14286...enewable resources,revenue moneys held by ISC
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/23/...nts-meager-reminder-of-a-painful-history.html
The word you are looking for is “status Indian” I’m thinking. I can’t speak to how much some individuals receive per month if they are receiving any kind of government funding but again having status does not ensure you will receive money from the government. It does have many negative effects like fee simple land not existing on reserve etc. It’s not really an advantage. Most “ benefits” of being status actually come from treaty. Status individuals do have access to programs like the one mentioned by op, and tax benefits ON RESERVE. I would rather have fee simple land and not be constantly getting ####ed from all sides by society at large but that’s just me
https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/1100100032294/1581869772685
https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/14286...enewable resources,revenue moneys held by ISC
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/23/...nts-meager-reminder-of-a-painful-history.html
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
When a full status individual moves off the reserve to pursue other opportunities in life, they give up much of the benefits. So it’s a strange captivation of the population, where they lose much of the support if they leave, and if they stay they’re stuck in a cycle of being dependent due to near zero economic opportunity on the reserve. I personally think education is the key to freedom and support providing it, and the support to get there, wholeheartedly.
That was one of the biggest takeaways I learned from flying in the north and doing medevacs etc from remote reserves, how stuck many are living there. There are many northern reserves that are essentially islands because there’s no reliable road access, and none at all much of the year in spring and fall during ice breakup. The locations were often selected as they were deemed undesirable land for development such as agriculture, forestry, mining, or townsites. Sometimes the government moved a whole community to a rather hell forsaken place just because they wanted to use the people as a political tool, ala Grise Fiord. This ignores destroying an entire generation in residential schools, one of the most heinous moves our government made.
I used to be pretty ignorant about first nations matters, and viewed it like many as in “I was born here too, and it wasn’t MY family that did it, that was X number of years ago before most of you were born”. Now as I mellow with time and have seen where many of the reserves are and the lot they have, I understand to say now you’re on your own would be the coupe de grace of this pattern of destroying a people and their culture.
What happened to them is no different than if China came here by the millions, pushed all of us off where we live if they found it desirable to repopulate and destroy for the economic gain of their own people, and concentrated us in Fox Lake, Grise Fiord, or small postage stamps of our former homes. On top of that, they’d take many of our kids and send them to schools far from home, to be forced to learn Chinese culture to forget our own. And a strange number of the kids would die there. It sounds like a dystopian plot of a drama on netflix, but it actually happened.
There are many places I don’t like the tack of how it’s being handled, particularly fish and wildlife aspects such as where uncontrolled harvest is tolerated, or how status is determined and some benefit who in my eyes really shouldn’t be included, benefits of status in my eyes should be distributed and weighted more by need, than birthright. We can’t forget we’re all human, and will take advantage of what we are given and come to see as normal and appropriate. I know many a redneck who if they weren’t restricted to seasons and harvest quotas would suddenly do exactly what appalls me in some of the wildlife aspects, many like to make that aspect racial… it’s just a human factor, and solving it requires education… and food support like this program.
That was one of the biggest takeaways I learned from flying in the north and doing medevacs etc from remote reserves, how stuck many are living there. There are many northern reserves that are essentially islands because there’s no reliable road access, and none at all much of the year in spring and fall during ice breakup. The locations were often selected as they were deemed undesirable land for development such as agriculture, forestry, mining, or townsites. Sometimes the government moved a whole community to a rather hell forsaken place just because they wanted to use the people as a political tool, ala Grise Fiord. This ignores destroying an entire generation in residential schools, one of the most heinous moves our government made.
I used to be pretty ignorant about first nations matters, and viewed it like many as in “I was born here too, and it wasn’t MY family that did it, that was X number of years ago before most of you were born”. Now as I mellow with time and have seen where many of the reserves are and the lot they have, I understand to say now you’re on your own would be the coupe de grace of this pattern of destroying a people and their culture.
What happened to them is no different than if China came here by the millions, pushed all of us off where we live if they found it desirable to repopulate and destroy for the economic gain of their own people, and concentrated us in Fox Lake, Grise Fiord, or small postage stamps of our former homes. On top of that, they’d take many of our kids and send them to schools far from home, to be forced to learn Chinese culture to forget our own. And a strange number of the kids would die there. It sounds like a dystopian plot of a drama on netflix, but it actually happened.
There are many places I don’t like the tack of how it’s being handled, particularly fish and wildlife aspects such as where uncontrolled harvest is tolerated, or how status is determined and some benefit who in my eyes really shouldn’t be included, benefits of status in my eyes should be distributed and weighted more by need, than birthright. We can’t forget we’re all human, and will take advantage of what we are given and come to see as normal and appropriate. I know many a redneck who if they weren’t restricted to seasons and harvest quotas would suddenly do exactly what appalls me in some of the wildlife aspects, many like to make that aspect racial… it’s just a human factor, and solving it requires education… and food support like this program.
I dont disagree, but continuing what we are doing isnt working. For anyone except the people skimming money. - dan
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^ those that skim and those that run the resource extraction show are plenty happy to have settlers and natives at each others throats
Divide and conquer
Your working class euro or other immigrant background Canadian has a hell of a lot more in common with those suffering on remote reserves than those who bank in the Cayman Islands and Panama; don’t forget it.
We are all more powerful when we work together for our common interests and love of our shared country
Divide and conquer
Your working class euro or other immigrant background Canadian has a hell of a lot more in common with those suffering on remote reserves than those who bank in the Cayman Islands and Panama; don’t forget it.
We are all more powerful when we work together for our common interests and love of our shared country
your last line says it all .
