Another New Factory Round .370 SAKO
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Well, because that would be backwards..the 9.3x66 came out prior to The KING.
Oh! I see! Just an unworthy heir that was banished from the Royal Court
The 9.3 sales in north america don't really amount to a pinch of crap in the grand scheme of things. Sure they've grown a bit in the last very few years but their sucess is on other continents. Obviously Sako and Federal are trying a little promo ala shameless NA style marketing to try and get sales up on this side of the pond a bit.
Probably becuase the US public is more comfortable with imperial rather than metric. Consider the .325 WSM. It really is an 8mm
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/reloads/0607/
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OK, I get the .375 Ruger because it essentially gives you a short action .375 H&H, but the logic of this one escapes me. The 9.3X62 would seem to be the correct answer for someone who wants a 9.3 bolt gun. Oh well, more choices is never a bad thing I guess, and if 9.3 Sako ammo is on the shelf it will probably get noticed.
Regarding the imperial moniker, remember the 7mm Rem Express. Another 30-06 based case that some couldn't figure. Didnt want to trust a "frenchie" metric round. Then, the 280 remington appeared.
I never gripe about the "redundancy" of new rounds though, good to see the industry doing well enough to spend some cash on R&D, and marketing.
I never gripe about the "redundancy" of new rounds though, good to see the industry doing well enough to spend some cash on R&D, and marketing.
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Actually it was the .280 Remington, and then changed to the 7mm Express to try and ride the coat tails of the popular 7mm magnum. When that didn't work they returned to the .280 Remington name. I don't recall when Remington brought it out, but I recall reading a Townsend Whelen article comparing the .280 to the .270 and the .30/06, and regarded it as a better choice for the man who had neither. That must date the round to the late '50's or perhaps early '60's, as he died in 1961.
If I needed more gun than a .338WM or a .358 Norma, I'd skip the 9.3 and go right to a .375 (Ruger of course
Bradly, dear Bradly.......
This one leaves me baffled as well. The actual 9,3x62 case dimension is actually 4 thou bigger at the head. Many an 06 case has been necked up for a cheaper source of brass but some would not recommend it.
If they want to be competitive they should have brought out the X64 Brenneke case, even at 100 years old it is looking at all these other "new" sizes saying what about me.....
It is the Great Grandfather of Clarke's spoiled little child, the 375 Ruger.
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While I agree, I thought a big part of the name change was due to confusion by the once-a-year shooter who thought the 7mm Rem Express was the same as the 7mm Rem Mag. I read somewhere that factory stamped 7mm Express rifles are quite rare and collectable as a result. FWIW.
I have long been enamoured by the 9.3x62 round and I almost had a custom rifle made in that caliber on a zg-47 ... but double shotgun that I had been searching out appeared unexpectedly so that project was sold for funds.
Something about the x66 or the 370 just doesn't do it for me - the x62 however, now that has history!
Sorry about your 9,3 Noel
Yeah,,,,,,, I know.
They don't know what they're missing. So long as they keep components available I will stay loyal. I'm just glad I'm not the one in the R&D trying to come up with something that hasn't already been. Tough road to hoe.
Sorry about your 9,3 Noel
As long as I keep supplying Noel with brass, the NA market won't matter.
Ok, with shame i will accept the corrections on my 280/7mm, twas early this morning when i made that statement. According to reloadersnest.com, they called it the 7mm express in '79 to try and revive it, but only confused the #### out of there customers. Whatever the case, still a cool round, and i love mine.
i was then going to throw up the 6mm remington, but noticed they called it the 244 when they gave it a 9 twist so it would throw varmint and deer weights accurately, then back to 6mm remington. Why the hell did big green like to change things around?
Anyways, back on topic, i think that, even though the 35 whelen does pretty much cover this round (30-06 based medium bore), it is nice to be able to huck a bigger chunk of lead with the old '06 case. I know that the biggest commonly available bullets for the 35 group is currently a 250 gr. I know you guys are screaming "what will it do that my 9.3 won't?" Simply put, an easy single pass through the sizer, and you have made 30-06 brass (which is farking everywhere, and premium stuff is available ) into 370 Sako. Add a bullet, some powder and a primer and you are ready to rock. Alot easier than pissing around trying to find 9.3 x ?? brass OR making neck sized 30-06 work. Then there is the advantages for guys like me, who like screwing oddball barrels onto standard (read economical) actions. (my stevens 200 based 358 win for example) I just need a standard length action and i can screw on a new tube and go.
Not sure if the 9.3's would give you more than the 358 norma, a 358 STA would be the ticket there, or as you say, a 375
i was then going to throw up the 6mm remington, but noticed they called it the 244 when they gave it a 9 twist so it would throw varmint and deer weights accurately, then back to 6mm remington. Why the hell did big green like to change things around?
Anyways, back on topic, i think that, even though the 35 whelen does pretty much cover this round (30-06 based medium bore), it is nice to be able to huck a bigger chunk of lead with the old '06 case. I know that the biggest commonly available bullets for the 35 group is currently a 250 gr. I know you guys are screaming "what will it do that my 9.3 won't?" Simply put, an easy single pass through the sizer, and you have made 30-06 brass (which is farking everywhere, and premium stuff is available ) into 370 Sako. Add a bullet, some powder and a primer and you are ready to rock. Alot easier than pissing around trying to find 9.3 x ?? brass OR making neck sized 30-06 work. Then there is the advantages for guys like me, who like screwing oddball barrels onto standard (read economical) actions. (my stevens 200 based 358 win for example) I just need a standard length action and i can screw on a new tube and go.
Not sure if the 9.3's would give you more than the 358 norma, a 358 STA would be the ticket there, or as you say, a 375
