UK style pistols and revolvers

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Have any of the local gun makers thought of creating Pistol/Revolver-ish rifles? Similar to what they use in the UK, but requiring two hands to hold or operate? In the case of something like a Glock style firearm, this could have all the same parts, except the serialized frame. This would allow for a steady flow of parts into the country for those who do own the original pistol, but also allow new shooters to sort-of experience pistols/revolvers. Maybe these could be adapted into three gun as well. I understand "compromise" firearms are not really popular, but if we can't have any at all right now, it would be nice to have something. Hopefully this will change in the upcoming election.

Here is a picture of a UK legal pistol from the internet. Yes, this makes me sad, yes it's lame. Something is better than nothing.
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MattieRoss said:
Have any of the local gun makers thought of creating Pistol/Revolver-ish rifles? Similar to what they use in the UK, but requiring two hands to hold or operate? In the case of something like a Glock style firearm, this could have all the same parts, except the serialized frame. This would allow for a steady flow of parts into the country for those who do own the original pistol, but also allow new shooters to sort-of experience pistols/revolvers. Maybe these could be adapted into three gun as well. I understand "compromise" firearms are not really popular, but if we can't have any at all right now, it would be nice to have something. Hopefully this will change in the upcoming election.

Here is a picture of a UK legal pistol from the internet. Yes, this makes me sad, yes it's lame. Something is better than nothing.
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While this is all still up in the air, most detachable-mag stocked "semi-automatic pistol type" firearms would potentially still be caught under the Liberal C-21 "evergreen" provisions.... daft though they are.
 
Ones like you see in the UK don't pass muster as if I'm not mistaken they are modified from existing pistol frames.

Things that do pass are made from factory with stocks that are integral to the original design.

Examples of things that pass as "rifles" here
Browning buckmark carbine (Permanent metal frame which the stock wood is attached to.)
vz61 (Original design features a stock although not permanently attached seems to pass.)
Colt pattern revolving carbines/reproductions (Grip has a non-standard tang that does not accept pistol grips.)

Examples of things that don't pass
Anything that is formerly a handgun, once a handgun always a handgun. (UK style fireams)
Anything with a standard handgun grip frame where the stock from factory can be removed and replaced with regular parts. (Taurus or Alfa revolving carbine)

So sure its possible but its not going to happen fast and depending on how things go in the country I don't know if any company will want to divest too much resources into something that might not make it to market in time.
 
AntiKhaos said:
Ones like you see in the UK don't pass muster as if I'm not mistaken they are modified from existing pistol frames.

Things that do pass are made from factory with stocks that are integral to the original design.

Examples of things that pass as "rifles" here
Browning buckmark carbine (Permanent metal frame which the stock wood is attached to.)
vz61 (Original design features a stock although not permanently attached seems to pass.)
Colt pattern revolving carbines/reproductions (Grip has a non-standard tang that does not accept pistol grips.)

Examples of things that don't pass
Anything that is formerly a handgun, once a handgun always a handgun. (UK style fireams)
Anything with a standard handgun grip frame where the stock from factory can be removed and replaced with regular parts. (Taurus or Alfa revolving carbine)

So sure its possible but its not going to happen fast and depending on how things go in the country I don't know if any company will want to divest too much resources into something that might not make it to market in time.
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These would have to be designed from the ground up to be original frames that have to operated with two hands as per the law. Make the magazine permanently attached top loader like a Mauser pistol, and that would pass the C-21 rules. At this time, I imagine we are all seeing how things will play out this year with an election, or if the bill fails, so I understand what you are saying regarding whether it is a good investment. However, like the straight pull AR-style receivers, I don't think it would hurt.
 
Detachable mag centerfire rifles aren't better than handguns these days if you want to be legal. The Mauser C96 carbine is interesting, although there also revolver carbines.
 
Sad thing is in the UK people can still buy handguns even if in an awful altered state but we can't. They can even buy normal sized handguns that are cap/ball black powder (modern replicas). More than sad when the UK have better handgun laws than we have.
 
You have to realize that if someone does manage to design something that conforms to today's rules, they'll change the rules tomorrow so it doesn't conform. In fact, they explicitly promised to do so in the "evergreen" legislation.
 
.45colt said:
Sad thing is in the UK people can still buy handguns even if in an awful altered state but we can't. They can even buy normal sized handguns that are cap/ball black powder (modern replicas). More than sad when the UK have better handgun laws than we have.
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You can’t own a hand gun in the UK unless it’s for shooting in a proper target shooting club (Olympic idea) and it can only be .22 with the extended rod crap on it. You have not been able to own handguns by law since 1996 after the Dunblane school massacre were 16 kids and a teacher got killed.
 
MattieRoss said:
Have any of the local gun makers thought of creating Pistol/Revolver-ish rifles? Similar to what they use in the UK, but requiring two hands to hold or operate? In the case of something like a Glock style firearm, this could have all the same parts, except the serialized frame. This would allow for a steady flow of parts into the country for those who do own the original pistol, but also allow new shooters to sort-of experience pistols/revolvers. Maybe these could be adapted into three gun as well. I understand "compromise" firearms are not really popular, but if we can't have any at all right now, it would be nice to have something. Hopefully this will change in the upcoming election.

Here is a picture of a UK legal pistol from the internet. Yes, this makes me sad, yes it's lame. Something is better than nothing.
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YES ,,,,,,,, I have read much about these UK Guns . If I remember correctly they are called short rifles? The modifications
needed to make these leagal in UK are simple. Barrel must be a min. of ONE FOOT long And overall length must be min.
of TWO FEET long. Auto actions must be .22 LF , but Revolvers can be larger.
If the freeze or worse continues we may be looking @ this as well as shooters in the UK.
 
lol you can do these mods to your handguns while a liberal bangs your wife in in front of you...

Canada deserves the epic crash it is headed towards.

Cuck nation.
 
I'd rather not see UK style anything, my ancestors left the place 400 some odd years ago for very good cause. Why bring their sh1t here?
 
Dave5316 said:
You can’t own a hand gun in the UK unless it’s for shooting in a proper target shooting club (Olympic idea) and it can only be .22 with the extended rod crap on it. You have not been able to own handguns by law since 1996 after the Dunblane school massacre were 16 kids and a teacher got killed.
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One can also possess revolvers with the extended barrel and the attached rod in larger calibers like .357 or 9mm since they are classified as revolving rifles. All the UK firearm laws with regard to "long barrel pistols" are very clearly explained in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Polr6CS8taw.
 
Didn’t know about the long pistol being allowed in UK. But I’d rather have a rifle lol. But I think it’s easier to get a .22 semi auto rifle than a long pistol. But night shoots and sound moderators are allowed no problem lol.
 
Dave5316 said:
Didn’t know about the long pistol being allowed in UK. But I’d rather have a rifle lol. But I think it’s easier to get a .22 semi auto rifle than a long pistol. But night shoots and sound moderators are allowed no problem lol.
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dont knock it mate,i spent most of my hunting time out of a night, NV sound mod and shooting out of the landy window
 
remyltr said:
dont knock it mate,i spent most of my hunting time out of a night, NV sound mod and shooting out of the landy window
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I’m from UK and went lamping a fair bit as well , great times where had. But I really don’t get the long pistol to be honest.
 
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