Hi. IS the S&W MP 9mm suitable for IPSC production?

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He is getting a Glock 17 as it is proven and it is what his sister shoots.

I guess you're looking to give them a few years of experience before they have to worry about any pressure of really trying to win anything, eh ;)?
 
That's why sevigny shoots one. The Spo1 is also a great choice but the weight that helps it recover from recoil can also be a hinderance when making a wide transition between 2 targets. You can swing past the target if you don't slow down soon enough. Some people prefer lighter guns others like em heavy, so try the 2 put before dropping the cash. With the proper grip and stance the sight will track the same on every gun.
 
I noticed this when I shot my Edge. I usually shoot a USP, so the weight is nearly double.
 
Is it against the rules to remove the magazine disconnect from an M&P? Does that disqualify it from being in Production? I'm not asking what people do unofficially... is there allowance for this type of thing?
 
if you replace the sear pack with factory parts to remove the mag disconnect it's fine.
and the M&P is a great gun, probably the best deal in handguns right now.
 
The M&P is a good choice, the Norinco is a bad choice.

The last thing you need on your black badge course is gun problems, and you WILL have those with the Nork.

Now here come the Nork fans to babble about never having had a problem with their Norc.... it's funny though. They are always saying things like "My Nork runs perfectly, just one or two FTEs every few mags!"

Norc fans have never owned good guns, near as I can tell.

Unless you are going to go ST/VI for standard or open division, stick to production, and go with one of the big 5:

Beretta, Glock, HK, Sig, or S&W(M&P Only)

Otherwise, you are going to have gun problems.

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I don't know who you are, Bartledan, but I do know what you are.
 
well add Tanfoglio to his list and Dan is right. I've seen countless Norcs die at my classes, and XD's too.
 
Considering that if youre involved in IPSC,at the end of the day the purchase of the gun is almost a fraction of what the sport costs(add in ammo,match fees,holsters,magazines etc etc)it really pays to buy right the first time.Ive been involved for 30+ years in IPSC and have seen numerous people arrive in the sport with crap guns that broke or jammed to the point that they almost(and some did) gave up the sport in frustration.

Take your time choosing a good gun,listen to the posts of the people above,they have plenty of experience.

Theres no way around it,IPSC isnt a cheap sport,so save yourself some money and buy right the first time
 
Consider the class you may shoot.
Most popular are Production and Standard.

IMO Production is cheaper to shoot, there is less modifications you can do which means less money you will spend.
There are many good choices to start this class, and they do not have to be very expensive. One of the best shooter in Production class in Canada, he is on this forum, shoots CZ 75 SP01. It is a good gun and cost is way under 1000 bucks, also there are some light modifications allowed, and they do not cost a lot od $$. Tangfolio is the so call top of the line in production class, but will cost you double.
I will mention Glocks, there are so many of them in Production class, I see some Beretta, Sigs, HK and have never seen MP yet. I think MP is like XD, when it came to Canada, everyone jump on and was talking so much about how good is that pistol. Now, there is less talk.

As for Standard,
I say there are two types, one based on 1911, where STI2011 leads the pack, and one based on CZ design -Tangfolio. I own STI Edge, it is a good gun, but need some tweaking like most of Standard guns and that cost money.

And I agree, when you buy gun, buy the one you will like to shoot, do not buy gun for BB course, I did that, and now I have one extra gun in my collection which I do not shoot a lot.

Good Luck ;)
 
I've known several IPSC competitors that not only recommend the Norinco 1911, they build them into race guns for the open class. Gunnar at Armco being a great example. Their price attracts new shooters who need experience with shooting & maintenance. It does'nt help them BTW when guys with thousands crap on the new guys guns rather than help them out with skills. When you learn the firearm inside out before you shoot it like a good soldier it's gonna match or outperform every time. When a well trained man comes out and kicks your butt with a fifty year old highpower are you gonna say it's the shooter or the gun?
 
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I've known several IPSC competitors that not only recommend the Norinco 1911, they build them into race guns for the open class....
actually it's called a division and Gunnar doesn't build full house race guns anymore.

So we can better evaluate your statement,
Who are these people recommending Norincos as bases for Open Guns and where are they placing (percentages) at IPSC matches in BC?

I don't have a problem with you loving & defending your norincos, but it's way out of it's league in Open.
 
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What magazine base issues? I can't seem to find the threads

The M&P mag has a plastic base and metal "tube". Plastic mag bases were breaking when dropped out of the gun onto hard surfaces like concrete. The general consensus was that there was a bad run of polymer causing bases that were brittle. I believe S&W has corrected the issue.
 
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