Christmas Sale GNG Carcano Moschetto
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Eaglelord17
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- Sault Ste. Marie
It started with the Model 38 rifles and carbines. The intent being with the new 7.35 cartridge you would mainly be fighting short range engagements which wouldn’t need much adjustment and most troops (conscripts) weren’t good enough to take advantage of a adjustable sight anyways.
When they switched back to 6.5 realizing that trying to change caliber during a war wasn’t the best idea, it resulted in the fixed sight M38 6.5 rifles and carbines.
Thanks for the info!
FWIW, the sight picture is very different between the adjustable sights and the fixed sight.
The adjustable sigh does use any adjustments until 400 meters. The fixed battle sight on those rifles was meant to be used up to 350 meters, with hold overs and hold unders used to hit a target with a 6 o'clock hold.
The V is wide and deep and the blade centered within the V. Good for low light shooting, bad for accurate shooting. The adjustable leave has a tighter V, in recognition that at longer ranges your sight picture needed to eb tighter.
The fixed rear sight was calibrated for 200m with 7.35mm. When they went back to 6.5, they kept this sight and it worked out to about 300m for 6.5. That said, the sight picture is more mauser-like. A shallow and narrow V that is easier to use for accurate shooting out to 300m. The Italians figured out nobody in combat was going to shoot accurately past 300m with irons anyway.
Between the two models, the fixed sight is vastly easier to use (I have both and have tried both). If you try it, you'll see what I mean. You still need to work up a load and hold that will work for what you want to do at the range you shoot, but the sight picture is far more forgiving on the later rifles.
Hope that helps!!
to me, it looks like a fancy number "3" or possibly a W?
yes, Marstar still at 249
Thanks for all the info Claven. Only problem is that the 7 I ordered are all adjustable sights. Hmm I wonder how I can solve that issue lol
fritzhanzel
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I ordered 2 from Marstar as posted, they came with a free double case, maybe this is standard or do I just order too much from them? Cost me all in $585. Anyways, one had a missing butt plate gate, so I took the plate off, cleaned and taped it up and filled and filed with jb weld, then party blued and spray painted it, since the jb weld does not take on bluing. Looks good now, also considering that butt plates with gate are insanely priced IF available. The one stock had some gauges with missing wood, so I took it apart, filled with wood filler, let it dry, sanded it and touched up with furniture marker, can't see a thing where it was done. The light rust spots on one also came off easily. I bought the ammo from Tenda FMJ with free shipping and it looks as if my bores are tight.
Would love to mock one up JHO style but after I checked online, it may be more of a headache than worth the hassle.
Would love to mock one up JHO style but after I checked online, it may be more of a headache than worth the hassle.
fritzhanzel
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
What is strange is that they imported millions of those scopes but none (or few) can be found, and if so, at very high prices.
The problem is the mount, which appears to have been manufactured specifically for this rifle since it has to be offset in order to still feed the clips.
Many probably ended up on some 22 rifles and to be clear, those scopes suck big time.
Maybe I change my mind about "hunting" for the setup mount and scope, depending at which insane price the auction will end, lol.
Here is a more detailed picture:
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...ld-rifle-scope-and-mount.cfm?gun_id=100936484
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Anyone who has ever taken a brand new shooter out can also attest to sheer dumb luck sometimes. I've seen a shooter hit a milk jug at 300 yards (only once granted) and he very clearly closed his eyes and winced before pulling the trigger
