Charles Daly over under, happiness of frustration ?
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From what I gather Charles Daly, Huglu, Tristar, Canuck, Optima, Hatsan etc are all Turkish made guns. Wouldn't surprise me if they all came out of the same factory but I can't say that with absolute confidence. A lot of other name brand guns are made in Turkey as well and they shoot quite well. I say go for it!
I own a Hatsan pump and would take it over my Remington 870 any day. Much nicer internals and it comes apart and back together so much easier.
cheers,
I own a Hatsan pump and would take it over my Remington 870 any day. Much nicer internals and it comes apart and back together so much easier.
cheers,
For 50 years ending around 1930, Charles Daly guns were made in Prussia and today are considered among the finest guns ever made. Every gun with the Charles Daly name slapped in it since then has been trading, to some greater or lesser degree, on that reputation. It's now over 90 years later. How much quality do you think is left in that name.
Based upon my own experience with Turkish over and unders, you should investigate the potential for warranty repairs in Canada before buying. FWIW - There is a NIB Baikal in the EE for about the same amount of money, that would be a much better buy.
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Up until the mid-70s, didn't Beretta and Miroku manufactured guns under the Daly name?
This gun is threaded for Beretta chokes
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According to the Internet, the current production 202 is made in Turkey
- Mid 90s to early 2000s... SxS were made in Spain and O/U by Sabatti in Italy
Maybe I'm weird... and even though I've seldom had to replace parts on shotguns, I'd sure be weary of having to find something for Charles Daly... seeing how they got guns from so many different source, and not knowing if they were standard run-of-the-mill offering that were simply re-badged... or stuff but to their specs.
- I think I'd pass
- Mid 90s to early 2000s... SxS were made in Spain and O/U by Sabatti in Italy
Maybe I'm weird... and even though I've seldom had to replace parts on shotguns, I'd sure be weary of having to find something for Charles Daly... seeing how they got guns from so many different source, and not knowing if they were standard run-of-the-mill offering that were simply re-badged... or stuff but to their specs.
- I think I'd pass
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Buy it! When it breaks within a few hundred to maybe couple thousand rounds you at least have a budget lightning rod for the back 40. A buddy of mine has a real nice (sarcasm) Stoeger Condor that wouldn't consistently fire the second shot from day 1 out of the box. He could not fathom spending $700 more for an excellent condition used Citori when he could buy new for $900. He brought it out on a trip to AB to hunt with me, all excited. First morning in the blind it failed on 95% of the attempts to fire a second shot. He borrowed my wifes 20ga Beretta A400 the rest of the trip. The gun is now a useless paper weight.
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If you looked into warrentys how can you suggest Baikal? They have no warrenty in North america
The Charles Daly ou is a very basic budget ou. Also that sale price is higher than others are selling it for so shop around you will find it cheaper
The finish is not real nice and the fitment is suggestive of the price. The ones I've shot were all shipped dry and had corrosion in the harder to reach places. All went bang when the trigger was pulled but I'd personally save a bit more and buy a huglu or Churchill. You'll get a much nicer gun
The finish is not real nice and the fitment is suggestive of the price. The ones I've shot were all shipped dry and had corrosion in the harder to reach places. All went bang when the trigger was pulled but I'd personally save a bit more and buy a huglu or Churchill. You'll get a much nicer gun
I really like my CD 410 o/u - it locks up tight, trigger is a little stiff but gotten used to it - took three rabbits with it already - hoping for 4,5 and 6 tomorrow. It's relatively light, points well - now if I have to gripe about anything at all it would be that it doesn't have swivel studs. It's a budget shotgun puts meat in the freezer and your not too worried if you scratch it up in the bushes. When I bought it it was $499 regular price.
I guess it would be a good pry bar if it breaks.
I'd happily pay 1400 for a nice specimen of a used Citori, but the EE is full of overpriced items these days
I'd happily pay 1400 for a nice specimen of a used Citori, but the EE is full of overpriced items these days
I didn't have high hopes when I bought mine last May (before the new rules regarding NR's) took it out a couple times and am growing to like it more and more. With expensive shotguns you will always be worried about it getting scratched - with the CD even though I clean/oil it after each time I use it - I usually throw it behind the truck with my other gear when I go hunting.
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Income tax season is just around the corner... wait for the deal?
Having owned several Baikals, I consider them a reliable no-frills gun. While there is no warranty available, there are parts around. Meanwhile, my newly purchased Huglu O/U is back in for round two of warranty repairs, having been told there are no factory replacement parts available in Canada.
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I had one of those in 20 gauge, didn't like it to much as it felt heavy and clunky. Also it would just go click about twice out of every box of trap ammo.
Now I have a Stevens 555 in 28 gauge and I'm happy with one.
Now I have a Stevens 555 in 28 gauge and I'm happy with one.
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Well Cosmic could not make it any clearer for those considering Turkish guns. There it is right there. I've seen and heard this more times in the few years since these Turkish guns entered the scene than in all my years of hunting and clays shooting with the old standby Brownings, Winchesters, Beretta's and Remingtons of years past.
A Huglu in for repairs for a second time and no parts available and many on here suggest spending a bit more to get a Huglu. Spend a bit more and get a Browning or Beretta. Hell you're better off with an older Remington or Winchester.
It's been 36 years and my old 101 is still going strong. I sold it to a buddy three years ago. He loves it. It had at least 50,000 target loads through it and no less than 15,000 heavy field loads and not once had a ftf or fte. You get what you pay for...
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Why would you worry about getting scratches on a more expensive gun? The idea is to enjoy the fruits of your labour not fret over them. Sounds like a poor way to enjoy ones life to me. Buy yourself a nice gun, use it, enjoy it. That is what it's for!
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