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Seems strange to me that the higher end gunmakers make guns in identical cased pairs. I suspect they are for perhaps "game clubs" where clients come without a gun and the club supplied one for them to use???. I dunno. Seems to me that a better cased pair would be two guns of identical stock dimensions (to fit the owner) but either two different gauges or even same guns with different chokes. SOMETHING to warrant having two. Two EXACTLY the same in every way seems..............pointless.
 
I think rich people have servant folk to reload their second gun while they are shooting the other one.

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Ryan is correct. Matched pairs were developed for driven pheasant shoots (and red grouse and partridges), where beaters drive the birds to take flight and fly towards and over the waiting line of shooters. All very organized, with allotted positions, and once the birds start coming in, the shooting is fast and continuous until the drive is over. Only afterwards are the birds picked up. A sport not possible with muzzle-loaders, but possible with the new-fangled breech-loaders, which were fast to re-load. It was the need for speed in such shooting that led to snap-action gun actions, ejectors, part-cocking actions, and eventually self-cocking hammerless guns. It also meant individual daily bags of hundreds and sometimes thousands of game birds at the large estates. Better still was to have two perfectly matched guns, identical in all respects, the numbers one and two on the ribs being the only difference. Same weight, balance, decoration, wood colour (and often grain pattern), so that the shooter could not tell one from the other when using. Because of the extra work in making them identical (hand work, not machine-made), a pair was more costly than buying two separate guns. A loader (often one’s footman, or butler) would take and empty and re-load the fired gun and hand it back to the shooter. With two guns, they could be alternating guns in a continuous choreographed sequence. Quite something to watch. The first breech-loaders were very expensive, each one a status symbol. To be wealthy enough to have two… Some very wealthy sportsmen had sets of three, using two loaders.

To put it into perspective, imagine if buying a gun today meant spending one and a half or two times your annual salary… and ordering two of them. In some ways the cost of a bespoke Purdey hasn’t changed much in 170 years, in relative terms. Through modern production, the cost of a decent gun has come way down to something affordable to most.

On the subject dearest to me, pin-fires, I can say that I am not aware of any pairs of pin-fire game guns having been made. The sport of driven pheasants was only possible with breech-loaders, and the pin-fire double gun was fast enough to use for the number of pheasants being raised at the big estates. It took several years of determined pheasant husbandry to develop the facilities for, and raise, the large numbers of pheasants needed for the sport. By the time the big estates were rearing the big numbers of pheasants, the central-fire guns, even faster to re-load, were dominating the shooting field. And as shooting was a social activity of persons of rank, there was peer pressure to switch to the newest guns, and not use the out-of-fashion pin-fires. Matched pairs started with central-fire hammer guns.

To give an idea of the kinds of numbers I'm referring to, Lord de Grey, the 2nd Marquess of Ripon and the best game shot of his day, kept detailed records. In 1867 he obtained a pair of Purdey central-fire hammer guns, but only shot 741 pheasants with them. In 1868 that number rose to 1,601. From 1873 he was averaging over 3,000, and by 1876 he was bringing down 4,000 a year. Then it was 5,014 in 1881, 6,119 in 1883, and 8,514 in 1896, particularly good years. His best pheasant year was 8,647 birds in 1906. He kept shooting until 1923, by which time his total pheasant count was 241,224 birds (and over half a million game birds -- grouse, partridges, woodcock, snipe and ducks -- in total). In terms of individual estates, the day's count could be in the order of more than 3,000 pheasants, split between the shooters. Keen shooters could fire 20,000 rounds in a season. It is not surprising that hammer guns from the 1860s to the 1890s can be very tired.
 
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Seems strange to me that the higher end gunmakers make guns in identical cased pairs. I suspect they are for perhaps "game clubs" where clients come without a gun and the club supplied one for them to use???. I dunno. Seems to me that a better cased pair would be two guns of identical stock dimensions (to fit the owner) but either two different gauges or even same guns with different chokes. SOMETHING to warrant having two. Two EXACTLY the same in every way seems..............pointless.

Yup, you have a loader for the distasteful task of loading your gun.
That’s also why these guns have automatic safeties, so the gun is on safe when passed to the shooter.
 
I suppose that makes sense. Interestingly, I have watched a LOT of TGS video's and passed that particular one several times without watching it not knowing exactly what the title meant (I don't need any more reasons to love a sxs). I suspect then, the ones that come in cases of 3 or 4 identical guns is to rotate them out so they don't over heat if the shooting is that fast and furious.
 
Seems strange to me that the higher end gunmakers make guns in identical cased pairs. I suspect they are for perhaps "game clubs" where clients come without a gun and the club supplied one for them to use???. I dunno. Seems to me that a better cased pair would be two guns of identical stock dimensions (to fit the owner) but either two different gauges or even same guns with different chokes. SOMETHING to warrant having two. Two EXACTLY the same in every way seems..............pointless.

100% comes from driven game shooting in the UK years back. You want exactly the same gun so that nothing changes between guns while the birds are coming over. Three gun sets weren't unheard of, but they're more difficult to manage as there end up being more guns than people to handle them.
 
100% comes from driven game shooting in the UK years back. You want exactly the same gun so that nothing changes between guns while the birds are coming over. Three gun sets weren't unheard of, but they're more difficult to manage as there end up being more guns than people to handle them.
Not so much "years back" There are PLENTY of cased pairs made in the last 10-20 years so this fast shooting of driven birds must still be a "thing". I have only seen one complete 3 gun set and one complete 4 gun set but have seen a few singles marked "3" but, of course the vast majority are "just" pairs. I strongly suspect that if one can afford a 3 or 4 gun set of bespoke Purdeys, finding bodies to handle/load them would not be too much of a burden.
 
Most big name Spanish Italian and British makers still list pairs in the pricing. It's usually a 10% fee
That might be coming to an end. I am kicking the idea around of getting a gun made for me and have been looking at William Evens (made by Grulla) and they said that they do not charge a "fee" for pairs, just pay for each. Not that this matters to me as as I have no need for a matching pair.
 
That might be coming to an end. I am kicking the idea around of getting a gun made for me and have been looking at William Evens (made by Grulla) and they said that they do not charge a "fee" for pairs, just pay for each. Not that this matters to me as as I have no need for a matching pair.

Maybe so I was just stating what I've seen in price lists lately
 
I suppose that makes sense. Interestingly, I have watched a LOT of TGS video's and passed that particular one several times without watching it not knowing exactly what the title meant (I don't need any more reasons to love a sxs). I suspect then, the ones that come in cases of 3 or 4 identical guns is to rotate them out so they don't over heat if the shooting is that fast and furious.

Love TGS... and I'm often envious of the $ some of the stuff is selling for across the pond!

Been thinking about a his & hers SxS set... But I don't think the wife would buy the idea that the 2nd gun is for her :p
 
The loading servant is supposed to be why assisted opening was deemed to be OK on double guns. The shooter is supposed to open the gun before handing it to his loader and it's the loader's problem to close it again, not the shooter's. Edwardian double gun loaders can be seen in action in the first minute or so here:



How the English landed gentry feel about repeating guns can be glimpsed here:


 
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Great video on the topic, thanks for posting it.

Something new every day, I swear. What is that massive loader's neck worn shell box called exactly? I turned on the closed captioning and it comes out spelled 'ganache,' like the pastry, but I can't associate that spelling with the actual item.
 
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