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To the question about a bear being aggressive at 100 yards, I can remember one. It was protecting an elk kill, it didn’t get inside 50 yards but it was engaging us to a degree. Most of my “encounters” have been well inside 100 yards. They were surprised.


That's a great example of why 100 yards is too far to start shooting. That bear doesn't want to fight, he wants you to get the hell away from his food and not come any closer. Rather than opening fire, a good retreat is the best course of action.
 
There are lots of occasions where grizzly attacks have happened where people survived and/or where with a person survived to account for the events that occurred. Never, ever heard of one where they questioned their choice on self defense and got mauled. While it is possible there are folks that can’t speak because they are dead it is pretty silly to think a person didn’t defend themselves if they had a chance, isn’t it? Point is a 100 yards a bear is not dangerous, at THAT moment. Self defense is based on the assumption it’s your last resort in a life or death situation.

you're saying a bear at 100 yards is not a dangerous situation and I'm telling you ...YOU don't know that ..last time , but you are giving your "opinion" , nothing more nothing less..
 
you're saying a bear at 100 yards is not a dangerous situation and I'm telling you ...YOU don't know that ..last time , but you are giving your "opinion" , nothing more nothing less..

Yes I do know it’s not dangerous in that moment. It absolutely can’t hurt me at that distance. At 35 miles per hour it takes 7 seconds to cover a 100 yards, that’s a long time where lots of scenarios can unfold.

If it started rushing at a 100 and didn’t stop I would start pulling the trigger inside 25 yards as at that point there isn’t time for many other things to happen. I will reiterate a majority of my encounters are well, well within 100 yards. Most I doubt my means of protection, firearm or spray, would have been effectively used as I didn’t have sufficient time.
 
That's a great example of why 100 yards is too far to start shooting. That bear doesn't want to fight, he wants you to get the hell away from his food and not come any closer. Rather than opening fire, a good retreat is the best course of action.

Agreed. I all situations how you react affects how they do.
 
It’s hard to shoot over your shoulder if you’re trying to retreat from a charging bear.

It appears that a charging bear only becomes your problem inside 25 yards…

The shoot first, ask for the range later procedure still keeps your chance of survival high. For the bear, low. I’m not sure there is a better outcome.
 
That's a great example of why 100 yards is too far to start shooting. That bear doesn't want to fight, he wants you to get the hell away from his food and not come any closer. Rather than opening fire, a good retreat is the best course of action.

I never said anything about shooting at 100 yards each and ever time . Can a bear be in a dangerous place with you at 100 yards , Yes . But none of us really know that with of those attacked . Well I guess the newspaper readers .
 
It’s hard to shoot over your shoulder if you’re trying to retreat from a charging bear.

It appears that a charging bear only becomes your problem inside 25 yards…

The shoot first, ask for the range later procedure still keeps your chance of survival high. For the bear, low. I’m not sure there is a better outcome.

I like this ...lol . common sense is gone for some and the fear of shooting , like you said ..
 
What is a persons life worth? 1 bear? 10 bears?
If there’s even a 10% chance a charging bear was going to kill someone I would hope you’d kill it at any distance. And sleep well. They make bears every year.
 
What is a persons life worth? 1 bear? 10 bears?
If there’s even a 10% chance a charging bear was going to kill someone I would hope you’d kill it at any distance. And sleep well. They make bears every year.

Also why they are extinct in much of their range.

A bear is always dangerous but only to you when inside a range it can hurt you. Do you.
 
Also why they are extinct in much of their range.

A bear is always dangerous but only to you when inside a range it can hurt you. Do you.

The fact they are extinct somewhere is not my problem especially when being charged by one. They aren’t extinct here. The opposite actually.
Sounds like I’m arguing with David Suzuki.
 
not everybody charged are challenging the tickets issued ...

It would be a rather large ticket here in Alberta and likely a little more.

There was a fellow a few years back in swan hills that got chewed up and ended up killing the grizzly with a handgun. It was as far as I know all swept under the rug.

He was even air transported to the hospital it was that bad.

Doubt the authorities wanted to make light of the situation that unlawful use of a handgun saved his life.
 
That's a great example of why 100 yards is too far to start shooting. That bear doesn't want to fight, he wants you to get the hell away from his food and not come any closer. Rather than opening fire, a good retreat is the best course of action.

That particular bear... that time... with that line of sight...with those circumstances. It must have been fall, the bear full, and in a good mood? The correct call was made, either way, as the fellow saw fit, tho... right? What if if it didn't stop at 50? 30? 20? Or at all? Because you can't say that it's never happened... because it has...7 seconds to get your rifle off of your pack, rack a round, and get a shot off... or not.

R.
 
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Sure, I know if no instance where someone choose not to shoot. Getting a shot off is another story. Maybe you can provide details?

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You can do it!

R.
 
The fact they are extinct somewhere is not my problem especially when being charged by one. They aren’t extinct here. The opposite actually.
Sounds like I’m arguing with David Suzuki.

Interesting, I don’t consider discussions arguing.

Anyways it’s interesting as usually those people with more experience with grizzlies have the most respect yet least amount of fear of them. With the high densities you have around you it surprising you have such little experience. Anyways blaze away cause a good bear is a dead bear, right? Make ‘Em everyday…. Aren’t hunters supposed to be conservation minded?
 
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