antiqueguy
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Chances are you set the bullet back so I would not fire it as this can create over pressure.
I’d go with the hydraulic method.
I’d go with the hydraulic method.
Live Round Stuck in Chamber
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Brassman66
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Firing it never crossed my mind, nor his and we will not be going that route haha. Muzzle is not threaded so grease isn't really an option either. I suspect the bullet has been pressed back into the case anyways. I have been trying to find some 5.5mm rod to use with some tape on it as Guntech said but have not been able to find any.
While messy, that is an advantage of the hydraulic system. Plunger only needs to be a couple of inches long. Full length rod isn't needed.
When I still had my gunshop, I had a set of drill rods in various sizes to work in most all bores. Really useful when customers would come in with heaven only knows what stuck in the barrels. Worst cases were when a failed effort had been made to remove whatever was stuck.
When I still had my gunshop, I had a set of drill rods in various sizes to work in most all bores. Really useful when customers would come in with heaven only knows what stuck in the barrels. Worst cases were when a failed effort had been made to remove whatever was stuck.
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Hammer. Sharp blow. The plunger isn't a tight piston fit, so there is leakage and mess. And when the cartridge moved everything in the barrel is going to be released. A brass pin punch sized to fit would be fine. Wrap with tape as needed. The oil isn't flush with the muzzle. There needs to be enough room for the plunger to be inserted in the bore and guided before being struck.
Throw it in the freezer overnight...brass shrinks in the cold at a faster rate than metal.
Non invasive and easy enough to do...what will it hurt?
"...cold enough to freeze the balls of a brass monkey" comes from the practice of putting iron cannon balls on a dimpled brass plate on the deck of a war-ship. When very cold the brass contracted sufficiently to cause the iron balls to fall out."
Non invasive and easy enough to do...what will it hurt?
"...cold enough to freeze the balls of a brass monkey" comes from the practice of putting iron cannon balls on a dimpled brass plate on the deck of a war-ship. When very cold the brass contracted sufficiently to cause the iron balls to fall out."
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Vandee - not sure what you and your friend have available for resources? In another thread on CGN about stuff stuck in a bore - was a video about Edmonton Gunsmith - Ron ??? - I think I had seen posts by him as "speerchucker" or similar, on other websites - I do not remember how he grabbed and held the receiver end , but he had a fitting over end of barrel, in his lathe, held in place by the headstock - fitting had a grease zerk - was not threaded to barrel - he just pumped with grease gun until obstruction popped out the chamber end.
I have a large assortment of heat shrink tubing from about 1/8 in to 3/4 in, you can buy larger , and it works very good to build up to make a tight fit on rods, about 1 in long or what ever.
I have a small steel one for 22 that is full length tubing .
Never used a grease gun, but I would fill up with oil first, then would not take so much grease.
I use to do a fair bit of electronics work , so always used heat shrink tubing, you can buy 6 in lengths at most places, but it also comes in rolls, wat better then black tape.
Masking would likely be better pressure wise, but not sure about that.
I have a small steel one for 22 that is full length tubing .
Never used a grease gun, but I would fill up with oil first, then would not take so much grease.
I use to do a fair bit of electronics work , so always used heat shrink tubing, you can buy 6 in lengths at most places, but it also comes in rolls, wat better then black tape.
Masking would likely be better pressure wise, but not sure about that.
Fill the barrel 1/4 full of grease.
Fill the next half of ice.
Use your plunger to hit the ice that would pressurize the grease to push the stuck round out.
Ice will melt and, well you will have the grease to contend with.
Fill the next half of ice.
Use your plunger to hit the ice that would pressurize the grease to push the stuck round out.
Ice will melt and, well you will have the grease to contend with.
Rod Hendrickson is the GS in Edmonton and this is one of his videos on live round removal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGbigz35QAg
This one has more details on the procedure and illustrates why you shouldn’t use a wooden rod to try and remove a bore obstruction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fVJP7oYAjc
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How do you plan to get thick grease down to the end of the bore?
How do you plan to get ice into a rifle bore?
What makes you think broken pieces of ice will pressurize anything, rather than just further crumble and fill in the gaps between the pieces?
I'm 90% sure you are just being Kamlooky but with some of the dim sparks on this board its hard to know sometimes.
That’s easy, use one of these with a length of thin wall plastic tubing;
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Grease gun with an inverted grease fitting nipple.
Use the push rod with tape on it snug.
Push the grease down.
Crushed ice should pack once you get it in there.
Or put some water in there and let it freeze.
How?
Figure it out.
Still winter up here.
Hell, cut a decidamp to fit the hole in the bawrill and push it down on top of the greasse to seal it
before using the push rod/hydraulic method.
Be better than a wooden dowel that could swell and get stuck.
If something doesn't work, try something else.
Did you give this any thought before you commented?
You one of them folk that gits hizz arse stuck out in the bush and wait for help?
Just ask'in is all.
Yea, I did and the thought I gave it brought me to the conclusion it was a silly and impractical idea.
What would happen if you poured water into a rifle barrel and then let it freeze? Do you think the resulting ice column would slide nicely up and down the bore or would it be firmly stuck in place and completely immovable no matter how hard you bashed on it? Give that one some thought. BTW I'd pay to see you try to stuff any amount of ice down a rifle bore. That'd be pure entertainment.
I have actually built a hydraulic stuck case remover and used it successfully. I poured water into the bore first, because that was simple and easy and doesn't create a gigantic mess to clean up afterwards. Then I attached the grease gun and used that to generate the pressure to push the stuck case out. Hardly any grease ends up in the bore and the little that does is only at the muzzle, where it is easy to remove.
IF I was going to try hydraulics on an unthreaded barrel, I'd still use water, prob half way up the bore. Then push a rod with a tight fitting patch as a "plug". Then whack the end of the rod to generate the hydraulic pressure to push out the case. This is simple, easy to do and doesn't create a gigantic mess to clean up afterwards.
If you’d posted this ^^^^^ before you posted this below, you’d have more credibility. !!!
Not everyone here is a “dim spark” . !!!
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. RJ
