We don't know what's "safe" due to the way the legislation has been worded. For the most part all semi auto rifles with a detachable magazine could be banned due to the subjective term "designed" and many if not all centre fire bolt action rifes could be banned due to the ill defined term "variant".
C21-safe Battle Rifles?
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The government's whole schtick against the "military style" rifles is purely based on form, not function. We clearly see that in the airsoft replicas and in the .22s that have black furniture hit the ban list. So I would say it is almost say that "C21" and "battle rifle" are pretty much mutually inclusive insofar as what the government is targeting with these amendments. We can see old surplus guns like the SKS, SVT40, etc. on that hitlist. Marco Mendicino, even when confronted by a reporter who said yeah, but the SKS was a military weapon back in the 1950s...and now now. Mendicino doubled down and said "yeah, it was originally a military rifle". So any semblance of the government somehow giving any pass on a "battle rifle" I would say is probably not a line of thought that should be entertained.
But moreso to the point, to play the game of what the government may or may not ban is playing right into their hands, with the fear mongering, manipulation and setting the narrative.
Just buy what you can afford (or even if you can't - haha) while you still can. No one knows what the future will bring you would not want to be one of those on the sidelines later saying "I wish I would have..." or "I knew I should have..."
I bought firearms two years ago that people told me I was nuts in buying as it would eventually be banned. They may be right, but it's been two wonderful years of taking these to my club and enjoying the freedom to target shoot and continue a long standing proud Canadian tradition. Had I kowtowed to these fears, I would robbed myself of wonderful experiences with fantastic, well crafted and engineered firearms.
Don't let what the government may or may not do, dictate what you actually do.
But moreso to the point, to play the game of what the government may or may not ban is playing right into their hands, with the fear mongering, manipulation and setting the narrative.
Just buy what you can afford (or even if you can't - haha) while you still can. No one knows what the future will bring you would not want to be one of those on the sidelines later saying "I wish I would have..." or "I knew I should have..."
I bought firearms two years ago that people told me I was nuts in buying as it would eventually be banned. They may be right, but it's been two wonderful years of taking these to my club and enjoying the freedom to target shoot and continue a long standing proud Canadian tradition. Had I kowtowed to these fears, I would robbed myself of wonderful experiences with fantastic, well crafted and engineered firearms.
Don't let what the government may or may not do, dictate what you actually do.
The FAMAE SG542 in 7.62x51mm is a clone of the Swiss SIG battle rifle - made under contract by Chile. It is a "cold war style" battle rifle and are non-restricted at this time. There are several models to pick from and come up frequently for sale on Gun Post and other Canadian sites like this. That said the mags are proprietary and expensive so buy a rifle that comes with the mags you need.
The FAMAE SG542 in 7.62x51mm is a clone of the Swiss SIG battle rifle - made under contract by Chile. It is a "cold war style" battle rifle and are non-restricted at this time. There are several models to pick from and come up frequently for sale on Gun Post and other Canadian sites like this. That said the mags are proprietary and expensive so buy a rifle that comes with the mags you need.
I'm going off just semi auto's in similar calibers to .308. H.C.A.R. But your going to pay 10k or more. Valmet hunter but your going to pay like 6k-10k. Ar-180's of various types usually find these above 1k and bellow 2k. There are others, but I don't feel like listing them all. Buy what you want, nothing is safe. Non of these are really battle rifles though, No Ar-180 being made today would ever be used by any forc, they are far to unreliable. They are sporting guns at best. The H.C.A.R is an expensive high end low quantity rifle that again would never see a battle. Neither would the Valmet hunter an AK derivative designed for hunting that has avoided the bans by name due to the government handing them out.
Really battle rifles are mostly bolt actions in this country. Some levers, some semi's like the sks. Hell even Winchester model 70's could be considered battle rifles. But not a single one I listed in my original paragraph is in anyway shape or form an actual battle rifle. Aesthetics and design choices aside, if no military or even police force has or would field these firearms in battle. Then they don't deserve the name battle rifle.
Really battle rifles are mostly bolt actions in this country. Some levers, some semi's like the sks. Hell even Winchester model 70's could be considered battle rifles. But not a single one I listed in my original paragraph is in anyway shape or form an actual battle rifle. Aesthetics and design choices aside, if no military or even police force has or would field these firearms in battle. Then they don't deserve the name battle rifle.
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battle rifle is semi 308 by definition. there are a bunch still unbanned out there, but anything that has an oem magazine available that is over 5-rounds (even if not available in canada) is on the potential ban list as per the proposed regulations.
that leaves some semi 308 hunting rifles that never had a high cap mag made by the manufacturer. but then they are not battle rifles as they can't support the same usage (ie, there will be tears if you try to heavy metal 3-gun with it). and there's nothing to say they won't be banned by name at some point (like the benelli iirc) as the mechanism to do that (OIC) doesn't require the same hurdles as passing a bill (C21).
buy it, use it, consider the $ you spent as lease cost (vs purchase).
that leaves some semi 308 hunting rifles that never had a high cap mag made by the manufacturer. but then they are not battle rifles as they can't support the same usage (ie, there will be tears if you try to heavy metal 3-gun with it). and there's nothing to say they won't be banned by name at some point (like the benelli iirc) as the mechanism to do that (OIC) doesn't require the same hurdles as passing a bill (C21).
buy it, use it, consider the $ you spent as lease cost (vs purchase).
for sure, tone deaf is being generous to the op. but if dumbness was a reason to get canceled then this place would be an empty wasteland ...
This was confirmed by our MP at our club meeting in Sept and he`s an anti firearm conservative. So be very wherry. Just because the current gov`t is faltering dosn`t mean we`re safe.
A lot of conservative members believe firearms are toys only police and the army should get to play with.
They probably also believe the police and army will protect the 1%ers from everyone else.
Elite/wealthy ruling class vs society
During election time Liberals will say and do anything possible to ensure re-election. Most of them, give me the belief that they have no problem lying with a straight face. 30 seconds after they are re-elected their racist, left wing, marxist, woke beliefs will be once again used to suppress Canadian freedoms and privileges that our fathers, grandfathers and great grandfather fought to give us. Next election, Canadian need to vote in such a way that Liberals loose party status.
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As long as we have a Neo Marxist government bent on totalitarianism….nothing in this country is safe anymore, especially firearms.
