Safety tips for private sales

It's not about being afraid. It's about risk mitigation.

One thing mentioned is take a friend, I'd likely just turn around.
2 on 1 odds are not in your favour.

Another said it depends where you live, there is truth to that, I bought something in a rural setting last year and when I got to the gas station he had the gun out on a towel on his car hood for all to see.
No one getting gas blinked.
Was a smooth deal
 
I've done a couple deals out of the trunk of my car at the needs parking lot, mind you my gas station sells ammo.

When I was in the city I did them at Better Buy Sport parking lot. But I also lived not far from Bayers Lake CT where people got arrested by cops for selling airsoft in the parking lot. Even walking out of your apartment with a gun case can alarm people.

The friends thing.. It can work in your favor sometimes. I showed up with my buddy to a deal and they brought 7.
 
Seems like an inside job. What are the odds of some bandits walking around right as a gun deal is happening? I wouldnt be surprised if it was set up by the buyer or seller as a way to scam the other out of money or guns. Which would make me think it was some shady gpost type thing.

It was sellers who were contacted by buyers under false pretences.
 
I have been buying and selling on eBay, Kijiji, Craigslist and various gun sites for almost 20 years and I will say that the overwhelmingly vast majority of the transactions face to face have been extremely positive. We are talking at least 600+ face to face meetings selling everything from computer equipment, cell phones (and previously PDAs), collectibles, books, golf stuff, clothing, kids' items and firearms items. I always meeting people in a public place where possible. A couple of times for cell phone stuff, my spidey senses tingled when the apparent buyer said they have no car but can meet me at a location of their choice and they will give me $30 for gas...and when I pull up the location and see it is near Jane and Finch, I am like uh, no.

One time I am pretty sure I walked to a Russian mob meeting. And then there was the time a lady was buying a video card from me and was short $80 or so and offered to "help me out" in my car to make up for the shortage. I ran (literally ran) from that one.

Aside from that, everything else has been fine. I think it's a bit odd people would allow me to meet them at their homes, but a number of people have and I meet their spouse and kids, etc. I personally have never had anyone show up at my home, even repeat buyers. Everyone has their own sense of risk aversion and there's really no right or wrong answer here. But I will say that if someone is so apprehensive to meet people in public, it's maybe better that they just do the shipping thing.

Part of the joy of face to face meetings for me is the invariable opportunity to shoot the breeze and chit chat with someone new. My lady friend thinks I am weird for talking to absolute strangers sometimes for a couple of hours during a transaction, and she thinks I am lonely and need to get out more, but I tell her when you come across others who are of like mind and values, the fact that we didn't know each other before fades very quickly and it's like you are chatting with a buddy now. Honestly, there is such a richness in face to face transactions, and sure, if a person does not have the personality for this, maybe it's not for them, but I personally love meeting people and shooting the breeze, griping about Trudeau and being encouraged that there are others who are decent, salt of the earth people who just want to live life and be left alone by the government.

I recently (last few months) bought some stuff off a guy on another gun site. We hit it off big time and I totally lost track that I was late getting to my club that afternoon for target shooting. Turns out the fella's story is similar to mine insofar as divorce experiences, and just other life things... He recently contacted me, said he is moving out East and he would like me to have the remainder of his ammo. I was happy to accept it and showed up thinking it would be a couple of boxes of random stuff. I ended up carting home two produce cases (like for oranges) full of various old rounds of this and that, some of it custom loaded by his grandfather. Very cool stuff. I wasn't expecting this at all but he said that he so enjoyed our chat when we did our transaction and he knew the stuff would go to a good home. This kind of stuff would unlikely happen with the anonymity and arm's length nature of EMT and shipping type of transactions.

As for safety...sure we hear stores like that infamous Kijiji one with the guy who ended up dead/burned, etc. but just like mass shootings, these events are such an outlier and an exception to the rule that we need to remember that if we live life based on outlier scenarios, we will be constantly freezing and be unable to make any decisions. I think for most people, God gave us enough common sense to realize what smells like a weird situation and to avoid it. It also helps to see a feedback record for the counterparty. While not guaranteeing a successful transaction, past history can provide glimpses of habits, and a general sense of what to expect. That said I have met tons and tons of new users who have been totally fantastic, and I am glad I was not adverse to meeting someone without any feedback. As with anything else, good communication beforehand and even a phone call or video chat may alleviate some of the consternation that some people may have in meeting up with a stranger.
 
This and some other posts are really good advice. It's nice to see people also consider extreme scenarios when meeting and take precautions. Appreciate it
 
This and some other posts are really good advice. It's nice to see people also consider extreme scenarios when meeting and take precautions. Appreciate it

Unfortunately selling some things requires the buyer to come to your home, large items, tables, desks, large appliances, riding mowers, snow blowers etc.

So either haul the stuff to the dump and toss away working items worth $$ or risk death and have someone come to your house.
 
I met a seller in a gunstore parking lot in the middle of the day. His vehicle was already parked when me and my friend showed up. I pulled alongside and we introduced ourselves. The rifle and parts came out and into my car as discretely as we could. I left the doors open so it would look even odds. I prepared my money by turning the bills in groups of ten for him to count. My friend watched and chit chatted. Naturally they had mutual shooting friends.

The funny part was in the conversation the seller asked to see my PAL. I pointed at my friend and said, 'I did! It's Tom and he's right there!' That got a laugh.
 
My last deal was in a guys garage. Had may guys come out to the farm also. I am sorry but I really don't fear people haven't since I was old enough to carry a gun .
 
I always do my ftf deals at a parking lot where guns aren't as out of place, such as cabelas parking lot or a big parking lot such as Canadian tire. Both those places sell guns and ammunition(for the most part, i am in a rural area). And people here tend to be more used to seeing firearms. Of course im always as discrete as possible anyways no matter where I do a deal. If it helps phone the guy up for a 5 minute chat, can usually tell what kinda person they are. And obviously check the pal beforehand. This way has worked for me and never had any issues.

Came here to say exactly this. Talk with the guy on the phone, if you are too nervous to call them, or they're to sketchy to indulge the 5 minute phone call, then that transaction isn't for you.
 
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