Private land for ease of hunting

yomomma said:
I have 26 acres in Muskoka next to 1500 acres crown land.

Mind you I stole the property for a mere $15,000.00.

Whoring my self interest

Yomomma's Wildlands on Youtube
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Oh this is who you are, nice. I've watched a few of you videos in the past. This one helped me with some ideas when I got my cabin back in 2014: Gravity Water Treatment for the Trapper shack.

I like watching the local Youtubers like My Self Reliance and Raspberry Rock
 
The ROC said:
Oh this is who you are, nice. I've watched a few of you videos in the past. This one helped me with some ideas when I got my cabin back in 2014: Gravity Water Treatment for the Trapper shack.

I like watching the local Youtubers like My Self Reliance and Raspberry Rock
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Started using that system last year, rain water came out tasting fantastic even with residual [FONT=&quot]sodium hypochlorite.[/FONT]
 
All else being equal, OP, you will be much better off wrt to what you can do on your own propertyif you buy land in an unorganized township vs. an organized one.
 
squidxm said:
On Ontario Out of Doors forum a few years back there was this moron in the wild turkey forum who bragged about hunting on land that he knew was private, but wasn't posted. He said if landowners don't bother posting signs, it's fair game. Even fences didn't keep him out. That particular year he said he jumped fences, hunted the land and bagged his 2 birds, all without permission. I'd like to think he was just trolling, but if people out there actually do such a thing, landowners would be pretty sour about giving permission to respectful hunters.
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Doesn't surprise me one bit. There's a local near my cottage who drives the roads, not logging roads mind you, I mean roads and shoots grouse, doesn't even try to hide the fact as I find birds minus the breasts right on the road. Obviously he's not supposed to be shooting on or near the road but I know he doesn't have permission to hunt on either side of it either. Permission or legalities don't mean much to a lot of folks. I know my tree stands have been hunted out of. I really hate to say it but if you have a bush property, it's almost guaranteed that it's going to be trespassed on at some point and depending how remote, it's likely going to be poached on too.

Op, I'm all for owning land but have you considered a trailer and just heading up to some crown until you can swing a property purchase?
 
jlovie said:
Doesn't surprise me one bit. There's a local near my cottage who drives the roads, not logging roads mind you, I mean roads and shoots grouse, doesn't even try to hide the fact as I find birds minus the breasts right on the road. Obviously he's not supposed to be shooting on or near the road but I know he doesn't have permission to hunt on either side of it either. Permission or legalities don't mean much to a lot of folks. I know my tree stands have been hunted out of. I really hate to say it but if you have a bush property, it's almost guaranteed that it's going to be trespassed on at some point and depending how remote, it's likely going to be poached on too.
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Guess it is their problem when my rounds start flying their direction from my shooting range lol
 
jlovie said:
Doesn't surprise me one bit. There's a local near my cottage who drives the roads, not logging roads mind you, I mean roads and shoots grouse, doesn't even try to hide the fact as I find birds minus the breasts right on the road. Obviously he's not supposed to be shooting on or near the road but I know he doesn't have permission to hunt on either side of it either. Permission or legalities don't mean much to a lot of folks. I know my tree stands have been hunted out of. I really hate to say it but if you have a bush property, it's almost guaranteed that it's going to be trespassed on at some point and depending how remote, it's likely going to be poached on too.

Op, I'm all for owning land but have you considered a trailer and just heading up to some crown until you can swing a property purchase?
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Especially if you don’t live on the property. The break and enter crews, and the trespassing and poaching crews are often the same type of people, if not exactly the same people. They’re local, and know what camps/properties aren’t permanent residents. They have an entitled view, often being born and raised in an area which somehow means more to them than someone who has recently bought a property. I live in an area that has more than x5 the population in summer. It’s not permanent residences being broken into, unless they’re also known to police. I think my property was checked out once when we first moved here. Went out on the deck with my Rottweiler, truck backed down driveway and haven’t had another problem in 4+ years.
 
bush1 said:
According to the Ontario MNR it’s the hunter’s responsibility to ensure he’s hunting on land he’s authorized to hunt on.

Around here a lot of private land is marked with red dot signs and or fences but a lot is totally unmarked so without a GPS or topo that’s been updated to show where crown land borders are, it would be impossible to ensure one wasn’t hunting on private property without landowners permission.

Driving down some back country roads with my GPS, I can clearly see where the private property and crown land boundaries are. It’s only as good as the last update though but crown land doesn’t get sold too often so pretty accurate.

We have 600 acres fairly close to our town to hunt on and another 600 acres across the road owned by a friend that gives us permission. This land is clearly marked with red dot signs to show its private and no hunting without permission. Further down the road there’s 2 patches of crown land on each side of the road and no markings on the adjacent private land. And further out there’s very few signs that the land is private but almost all of it is private.

Hunting or just walking on unmarked private land is trespassing. I’ve heard that some provinces have different rules on marked vs nonmarked land when trespassing is concerned, though.
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It is the moral/ethical responsibility of hunters to know private/public land, but not a legal requirement. The onus is on the landowner to post private property, in Ontario.

Unless land (in Ontario) is properly posted as per the Trespass to Property Act (TPA) or is under cultivation/forestation or fenced as per the Trespass to Property Act, then it can be entered.....unfortunately.

The red dot you mentioned is proper/legal signage under the TPA which means "no entry/private". As a point of clarification though, it does not mean "no hunting" but that's a moot point as the land would be posted as private (with the red dot) anyways.
 
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Waterfowler said:
It is the moral/ethical responsibility of hunters to know private/public land, but not a legal requirement. The onus is on the landowner to post private property, in Ontario.

Unless land (in Ontario) is properly posted as per the Trespass to Property Act (TPA) or is under cultivation/forestation or fenced as per the Trespass to Property Act, then it can be entered.....unfortunately.

The red dot you mentioned is proper/legal signage under the TPA which means "no entry/private". As a point of clarification though, it does not mean "no hunting" but that's a moot point as the land would be posted as private (with the red dot) anyways.
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You’re reply is legally more correct than my earlier post. Thanks.

All of our hunting land is marked with the typical red dots on a white background and although most refer to them as a no hunting sign, they are in fact legally a no trespassing sign.

Our fiends further up the road have a very large parcel of hunting land and its not marked at all. They have said, all the locals know where the boundaries are and anyone else would have to deal with the consequences. One could legally arrest a trespasser that wouldn’t leave but that would be a slippery slope.
 
I drive 6 hrs. from GTA where I have a cottage & a 200 acre deer camp, with a 200 yard shooting range .
Good deer hunting there. Last year 6 hunters got 6 deer with 2 days left in the 1 week rifle season .
Small game not so good. I do not go up for a weekend. While still working, 1-2 weeks was the min. stay.
Now retired we go up for a min. of a month & often 1 1/2 months @ a time.Often 13 weeks / year.
 
Longwalker said:
Did that years ago, but in Saskatchewan. One of the best investments I ever made. Good luck in your search.
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i bought a couple quarters in Alberta close to 20 years ago. It has more then quadrupled in price. Good move?, you bet.
Buy what you can, it's not going down.
 
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