The perfect shot , Or slightly off
- Thread starter Spruster
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Assuming bullets of identical construction, with similar SD arriving at the same velocities and hitting the same location, you would be better served by shooting better.
Of course your definition of slightly off and mine may be different.
Of course your definition of slightly off and mine may be different.
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
You mean if you miss one vital organ and hit another?
This.
- Location
- West Central Alberta
Double This.
One guy’s idea of slightly off is probably another guy’s idea of perfect placement.
If your trying to brain an elephant; kill a crocodile on a bank, or head shoot a hippo in the water slightly off is a disaster. If you’’re blowing a wound channel the size of your head through the front third of a whitetail it isn’t going to make much difference.
If your trying to brain an elephant; kill a crocodile on a bank, or head shoot a hippo in the water slightly off is a disaster. If you’’re blowing a wound channel the size of your head through the front third of a whitetail it isn’t going to make much difference.
yeah, triple this lol, guilty of having some fun, ice is almost out
spruster rooster, nothing short of a bazooka will save the day for crappy shooting, the more horsepower you shoot the less likely you are to shoot it well when it counts, run all the horsepower you think you need I guess, no replacement for placement, the more horsepower you to your shoulder is a poor formula to prioritize in this whole thing, it's the 21st century, all the info is available, if you're taking it all in and processing it to that conclusion then you'll need to start connecting the dots a little better, a lot of guys over-gunned, over-scoped, and over-fed lol, I definitely qualify for the third one there these past few years, most don't seem to understand the 'shoot the most you can comfortably' thing and can't seem to get enough trial, error, and practice in to see all the differences and what their true abilities are in that regard, far too much ego and old information running around out there
spruster rooster, nothing short of a bazooka will save the day for crappy shooting, the more horsepower you shoot the less likely you are to shoot it well when it counts, run all the horsepower you think you need I guess, no replacement for placement, the more horsepower you to your shoulder is a poor formula to prioritize in this whole thing, it's the 21st century, all the info is available, if you're taking it all in and processing it to that conclusion then you'll need to start connecting the dots a little better, a lot of guys over-gunned, over-scoped, and over-fed lol, I definitely qualify for the third one there these past few years, most don't seem to understand the 'shoot the most you can comfortably' thing and can't seem to get enough trial, error, and practice in to see all the differences and what their true abilities are in that regard, far too much ego and old information running around out there
Where the 'a little bit strange' guy with the mustard & burger grease stained shirt takes a long drag off his Marlboro red, looks skyward as if he's addressing the ceiling, then recounts his last boat outing where "the fish was so big it nearly pulled me clean out of the boat just before I lost 'er" kinda place?
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NAA.
- Location
- Western Manitoba
Will sound impossible or "shocking" to some on Internet, but a very accomplished poacher that I met some years ago in West Central Sask (East of Meadow Lake) seemed to be convinced his 22 Magnum was about his most "perfect" deer rifle - not near the booming sound to get caught, doing what he did well. We had supper with him - deer meat, of course.
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- Location
- Western Manitoba
To carry on with that thought - blowing a really big divot into the hill behind the animal because you shot low or high, does not work out well either.
But, some years ago, my Dad and I each fired at a running white tail - I missed completely - when Dad fired, it stumbled, but kept going. I ended up on it's track - for a LONG way - drops of blood every so often on the snow - Dad and brother tried to keep ahead of me with truck - could see my blaze orange in the bush, every so often, to get a sense which way it was going - Dad finally did finish that deer in its bed - way ahead of me - was a bullet hole in it's front right ankle - above the hoof, besides the shot that killed it. I walked those tracks right up to that bed - so was the same deer.
Would have thought it shocking and impossible too if I hadn't seen one crack a couple deer in the ribs with a 22 magnum and watched em run about as fas as I see them run from a good centerfire hit and plop over.
Wouldn't do it myself but its almost like bullets through the heart and lungs or CNS kills things.
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- Western Manitoba
I did not see him actually get a deer, but, from his talking - he was not much for chasing or tracking or having "his" deer run off - and, apparently did not like to "waste meat" - he wanted them "dead right there" - so was pretty much into brain shots only - the ultimate "CNS hit".
nowarningshot
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Hate to break it to some. A 338 isn't a cannon. Stock design and ammunition has as much to do with recoil as caliber.
There was a tongue in cheek sarcastic thread,.years ago about using 17 rem on moose. The 6.5 manbun is closer to this. Go ahead, be accurate( most aren't) because the caliber is marginal. Use your judgment, don't take the over 300yd shot because the caliber has sub 1000 ft/lbs energy, but we know they'll take the shot.
By all means, shoot something you can handle/shoot well. Make it capable of doing the job while your at it. This includes using a premium game bullet, at distances your capable of placing a one shot kill. Buying a marginal, supposedly accurate caliber, with glorified target ammo is no better than using to high a recoiling caliber to shoot well
There was a tongue in cheek sarcastic thread,.years ago about using 17 rem on moose. The 6.5 manbun is closer to this. Go ahead, be accurate( most aren't) because the caliber is marginal. Use your judgment, don't take the over 300yd shot because the caliber has sub 1000 ft/lbs energy, but we know they'll take the shot.
By all means, shoot something you can handle/shoot well. Make it capable of doing the job while your at it. This includes using a premium game bullet, at distances your capable of placing a one shot kill. Buying a marginal, supposedly accurate caliber, with glorified target ammo is no better than using to high a recoiling caliber to shoot well
Nowarningshot said:
I just pulled a load from the Hornady manual and ran the numbers in their calculator. 140gr SST at 2800 fps is still carrying over 1,000 ft/lbs past 600 yards lol. I don't think "past 300" is a problem. just under 2200 fps and 1450 ft/lbs or so at 400 yards ain't anything like any 17 Rem I ever saw.
And if most aren't accurate they're gonna have problems that bigger guns just don't fix.
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Where the 'a little bit strange' guy with the mustard & burger grease stained shirt takes a long drag off his Marlboro red, looks skyward as if he's addressing the ceiling, then recounts his last boat outing where "the fish was so big it nearly pulled me clean out of the boat just before I lost 'er" kinda place?
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NAA.
And he’s there with a different version of the story every day.
It’s like almost winning the lottery.
