Ok , Kimber- Sako- winchester- Sauer- Tikka- or any other
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prairie lover
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- southern MB
Never owned a kimber or Sauer.
Only have sako a7s. 6.5 cm is flawless. Rough tech range and pro so the better stocks. 300 win mag had some issues with both mags. They were replaced and both new ones do the same thing. Not sure what to do now. If you try and go 3+1 the rear of the first round that needs to come off the mag does not lift enough for the bolt to grab it. The next 2 are fine. And if you put the full mag into a open action and then close it will be fine but thats 2+1. It's not fine of you insert the full mag on a closed action. Very frustrating. Sako has no answers. Piss poor weak mag springs.
Tikka are nice for what they are. Guys will complain about the plastic stock but it's a very stiff solid plastic stock . Have had some mag problems with 2 6 round 223 mags. Stoeger Canada replaced them and replacements are fine. Have one with a weak firing pin spring and it's off warranty finding a replacement spring is proving a challenge. Tikka stocks seem to be easy to shoot well and consistant but kick hard in large calibers for me even with a limbsaver recoil pad. Browning x bolts seem the opposite for me. Less recoil same ammo.
Winchester model 70s are just awesome. Rich pedigree. I dislike the rear grip stock angle on the extreme weather stock, too sloped back. The rest of the stocks are fine and that action is just magical.
Only have sako a7s. 6.5 cm is flawless. Rough tech range and pro so the better stocks. 300 win mag had some issues with both mags. They were replaced and both new ones do the same thing. Not sure what to do now. If you try and go 3+1 the rear of the first round that needs to come off the mag does not lift enough for the bolt to grab it. The next 2 are fine. And if you put the full mag into a open action and then close it will be fine but thats 2+1. It's not fine of you insert the full mag on a closed action. Very frustrating. Sako has no answers. Piss poor weak mag springs.
Tikka are nice for what they are. Guys will complain about the plastic stock but it's a very stiff solid plastic stock . Have had some mag problems with 2 6 round 223 mags. Stoeger Canada replaced them and replacements are fine. Have one with a weak firing pin spring and it's off warranty finding a replacement spring is proving a challenge. Tikka stocks seem to be easy to shoot well and consistant but kick hard in large calibers for me even with a limbsaver recoil pad. Browning x bolts seem the opposite for me. Less recoil same ammo.
Winchester model 70s are just awesome. Rich pedigree. I dislike the rear grip stock angle on the extreme weather stock, too sloped back. The rest of the stocks are fine and that action is just magical.
I’ve had all of these. Still have a Kimber and a few M70s. If I could only keep one it would be the Winchester. More accurate than the Sauer and Kimber but about the same as the Sako, better fit and finish than the Kimber and Sauer again about the same as the Sako (I’m talking about a supergrade though), better safety and better extractor than the Sako and the Sauer, smoother feeding.
Having said that, the others do have great features. For instance, the Kimber is lighter by far. And the trigger on the Winchester definitely benefits from a simple spring upgrade from Mcarbo or others. The irons in the Sako are better than any of the other rifles you listed. I didn’t like the Sauer at all. Can’t think of anything positive at all to say about it. Perhaps their higher end models are better. Tikkas are inexpensive and accurate - for what they are, they’re solid rifles, and you can’t do better at that price point. The only thing with a Tikka though is by the time you’ve bought all the upgrades and accessories you might as well have just bought a better rifle in the first place (just my opinion).
Overall, it’s the M70 for me.
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My overall pick would be the Kimber 84L . Light weight and accurate . In the 280 AI I have it makes travel and shooting more enjoyable ... The sako AV is a close contender , if on a field set up and not much walking . Kimber in my mind is adapting .
So Gatehouse tell us what you know !!!
and not from 2003...LOL
So Gatehouse tell us what you know !!!
and not from 2003...LOL
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pete dobinson
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I have 3 of the 5 rifles mentioned, a Kimber 84L mountain ascent, Winchester EW and a Sako AV. My kimber has been more accurate out of the box than the winchester and the sako. The sako has been the least accurate, even after having it professionally bedded. Kimbers are known to have great tiggers, not saying the others are bad I just prefer the kimber. Sako is heavier than need be. The winchester stock is a little thick in the pistol grip. Kimber fits me best, is the lightest of the 3 and more accurate. Maybe I just got lucky with my kimber but I've been lucky twice with them.
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To be fair, after 20 years of cgn, there's not much to talk about that hasn't been said.
OP, I've had all the above except Sauer. I did eyeball the 202 Highland for a while but never pulled the trigger on one. I shoot mostly Sako 75s and tikka, but the newer Sako models dont excite me.
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All of my fondest memories involve a Model 70. Mostly because of my dad, him being the 1-gun Model 70 guy.
If it ever comes down to one and only one, I'd probably start with a stainless Model 70 action, thread on a nice 22" fluted medium contour barrel with an 11 degree crown, chambered in boring old .30-06, a Timney trigger set at 1.5 pounds, and both a high gloss, high grade walnut stock and a McMillan Game Scout in the off chance I'll get to hunt the far side of the Rockies.
I really like the aesthetic of the Remington 700 CDL SF, but I want it on a Model 70 action.
If it ever comes down to one and only one, I'd probably start with a stainless Model 70 action, thread on a nice 22" fluted medium contour barrel with an 11 degree crown, chambered in boring old .30-06, a Timney trigger set at 1.5 pounds, and both a high gloss, high grade walnut stock and a McMillan Game Scout in the off chance I'll get to hunt the far side of the Rockies.
I really like the aesthetic of the Remington 700 CDL SF, but I want it on a Model 70 action.
Winchester makes fantastic firearms. Out of all the guns I've seen from friends, family or at the range, it becomes aparent quickly the Winchester brand is a step above most firearms brands in terms of quality. I am all ways impressed at the quality of the rifles coming out of the FN plant in Portugal and Japan's Miroku factory. Same could be said about the Browning bar and Browning shotguns. Can't say much on the other brands as I have no experience. But if I was forced to stick to one firearm type for my entire life I'd pick the Winchester model 70 made in Portugal.
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