Private land for ease of hunting

Yeah, my Great Grand Dad knew this. Had all manner of Land investments! Including the property I now live upon!

They are not making more dirt! If you can afford it, get it!

Worked with a guy that saw an advert for Ducks Unlimited paying land owners to NOT farm. He did some number crunching, went to the Bank, and explained his position, once he had some paper in place with DU. DU bought his quarter section for him, on the promise that he refused to farm it! As close as you can come, to Free Land!

Wish I had been as good at crunching the numbers then... Another guy I worked with bought an apartment building in Halifax, while he was on course there, and yet another, owned a strip mall, in Winnipeg, while he was still a Private!
 
trevj said:
Yeah, my Great Grand Dad knew this. Had all manner of Land investments! Including the property I now live upon!

They are not making more dirt! If you can afford it, get it!

Worked with a guy that saw an advert for Ducks Unlimited paying land owners to NOT farm. He did some number crunching, went to the Bank, and explained his position, once he had some paper in place with DU. DU bought his quarter section for him, on the promise that he refused to farm it! As close as you can come, to Free Land!

Wish I had been as good at crunching the numbers then... Another guy I worked with bought an apartment building in Halifax, while he was on course there, and yet another, owned a strip mall, in Winnipeg, while he was still a Private!
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Do the DU still run this program? I see a 'conservation easement' program on their website - is that it? Anyone know any details? (I already have land, be nice if they threw money at me :p)
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
You will run out of good deer country before you can get far enough north to afford land. Someone doesn't live on that land for a reason. But there are many unpopulated and undeveloped townships both sides of Hwy 17 across the top of the province.

In my experience in Ontario, when there is a large block of undeveloped land, someone else has already got long established hunting privileges. There is a sense of entitlement that transcends changes of ownership or commercial use. The usual excuse runs something like, 'Oh we've been hunting here for years. Old Bill told us we could hunt here forever, and he'd make sure no one else had permission. We don't bother anyone.' Well, old Bill is long dead and squatters rights don't apply. If someone new bought that cedar swamp, black spruce thicket, and granite ridges, they are quite right to remove any trespassers. But tell that to a crew of guys who've been coming there for two generations. Posting signs, tearing down cabins, building fences, and otherwise preventing access is a fast way to have your own house burnt down.
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Owning property in the country just gives you a new set of problems. No matter how remote people are everywhere and many of them are not well behaved. Patrolling your own land and constantly looking out the windows sucks....
 
A few years ago while moose hunting south of Geraldton ON we had to make an early week run to town for ice as it was tee shirt weather. Our camp was near the end of an old logging road and when we merged with more travelled portion there was a camp set up in the middle of the road. They had a 20' camper trailer mostly off the road but the awning and cook area were spread across the road. It was pretty obvious that these were city folk and I won't get into how I could tell but about six guys just appeared and stared at us wondering what we were doing. We told them we were going through and would be back in 3 or 4 hours so no sense in setting up again. They slowly moved the stuff out of the way while looking as though they were being put out. When we came back they had set up again so he just stopped and waited. After they had moved the stuff again the fellow with me told one of them that had this been an emergency we would not have waited and they should not be blocking the road. The guy just shrugged and I drove through. I really don't know if they thought we were the bad guys or they were but the odds were 6-2 and everyone had guns so any more confrontation was a bad idea.
Just a story about how some think they can lay claim to crown land.

Bill
 
southwest maddog said:
Owning property in the country just gives you a new set of problems. No matter how remote people are everywhere and many of them are not well behaved. Patrolling your own land and constantly looking out the windows sucks....
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This...also land isn't really cheap anymore depending where you are, look at the cost of buying the land, yearly taxes, and if you decide to build a camp/cottage. You could go on some pretty exotic hunts for the same price and have a lot less to worry about.
 
shoota said:
This...also land isn't really cheap anymore depending where you are, look at the cost of buying the land, yearly taxes, and if you decide to build a camp/cottage. You could go on some pretty exotic hunts for the same price and have a lot less to worry about.
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Correct and that’s why one should have bought land years ago, or a few month’s ago, but now is not too late. It should always appreciate, as long as you didn’t overpay for it.
 
billbmcleod said:
A few years ago while moose hunting south of Geraldton ON we had to make an early week run to town for ice as it was tee shirt weather. Our camp was near the end of an old logging road and when we merged with more travelled portion there was a camp set up in the middle of the road. They had a 20' camper trailer mostly off the road but the awning and cook area were spread across the road. It was pretty obvious that these were city folk and I won't get into how I could tell but about six guys just appeared and stared at us wondering what we were doing. We told them we were going through and would be back in 3 or 4 hours so no sense in setting up again. They slowly moved the stuff out of the way while looking as though they were being put out. When we came back they had set up again so he just stopped and waited. After they had moved the stuff again the fellow with me told one of them that had this been an emergency we would not have waited and they should not be blocking the road. The guy just shrugged and I drove through. I really don't know if they thought we were the bad guys or they were but the odds were 6-2 and everyone had guns so any more confrontation was a bad idea.
Just a story about how some think they can lay claim to crown land.

Bill
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look up about cbc or radio canada and hunting moose on crown land in quebec ...
 
Stumbled upon our 245 acre farm in Southern Manitoba virtually by complete chance nearly a couple decades ago, became good friends with the neighbor, a cattle farmer. He looks after our place like his own when I am not here and lets me hunt his 1000+ acres. Hunting and fishing are incredible with all manner of large, small game and a river within a 100 yards of the house. Wife questioned my sanity when I tacked the farm onto our mortgage. Nonetheless, turns out it was one of my better investment decisions as debt is paid and the property has appreciated over 600%. More importantly I found a rare true friend. I have to mention that shooting Tannerite of the deck whenever you want and not annoying anyone, priceless. Another favorite indulgence is sitting on the deck with a rifle, cigar, sipping a rum and coke waiting for the woodchucks to pop up in the early evening. Failing an appearance of a woodchuck there is good chance my neighbor will show up, which is also a win :)
 
KotKotofeich said:
Do the DU still run this program? I see a 'conservation easement' program on their website - is that it? Anyone know any details? (I already have land, be nice if they threw money at me :p)
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I doubt they do. This was in the late eighties.

They were paying Farmers, to NOT farm their land. For the ducks!

It worked out well for the guy that figured the game out! Wish that was me!
 
Waterfowler said:
Agreed, it's pretty much the only thing they don't make anymore of.
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With enough money that can even be done. Ask the Sultan of Brunei? Called Dubai. But for the most part its an investment youll never lose on unless the TURDeau comes out with a new plan.
 
Depends how long you want to drive. If you get off work on Friday at 3:30 and rough count for traffic (Ottawa) a distance of 300 km's I will arrive at 7:00 at best so 3.5 hours.

Sunset on the long weekend of Sept will be approx 7:39 to late to go hunt. If you have to be home for Monday means your leaving Sunday, So you have Saturday all day and Sunday morning.



ASingh99 said:
How many of you have your own land or at the very least cottages or cabins fairly close to crown land. Specifically in Ontario. I'm in the GTA and wondering how far north to buy land is too far if I want to be able to do weekend trips and not alter my work routine to go up north to hunt. Mainly small game but on occasion if I'd have a few days, maybe hunt deer.
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Back home a millionaire named Rossy, the CEO of Dollarama, has recently purchased an entire mountain, the former Glen Mountain Ski Resort and surrounding terrain, for use as a private hunting reserve. You might think this loss of a tourist attraction would cause a little resentment, and it did, a bit, but mostly because of the hunting component. If it had been bought to establish a condo community that would have made all the wildlife now there permanently homeless, which has happened elsewhere, nobody would have batted an eye.
 
shoota said:
This...also land isn't really cheap anymore depending where you are, look at the cost of buying the land, yearly taxes, and if you decide to build a camp/cottage. You could go on some pretty exotic hunts for the same price and have a lot less to worry about.
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Well I guess I lucked out.

26 acres in muskoka with 1500 acres of crown land just behind us. Land locked.

$15K for the property, another $6K to build a basic shack.

Yah I have to hike in, but in 4 years I have only ever seen a few snowmobliers.
 
greatwhite said:
Depends how long you want to drive. If you get off work on Friday at 3:30 and rough count for traffic (Ottawa) a distance of 300 km's I will arrive at 7:00 at best so 3.5 hours.

Sunset on the long weekend of Sept will be approx 7:39 to late to go hunt. If you have to be home for Monday means your leaving Sunday, So you have Saturday all day and Sunday morning.
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Don't think you need to go 300 km from Ottawa for most hunting (maybe moose?) I'm 70 km from downtown Ottawa - used to commute every day pre-covid. Now I just work from home and can hunt anything I want except moose (we have a few but too few to hunt)

In the GTO, yes one has to go further, but really if that's the lifestyle one is going for, try to find work that doesn't need one to be in an urban center for every day...

trevj said:
I doubt they do. This was in the late eighties.

They were paying Farmers, to NOT farm their land. For the ducks!

It worked out well for the guy that figured the game out! Wish that was me!
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Program still runs... but not really worthwhile for me at this point - it really isn't _that_ much money and the easement is in perpetuity. The land has to be _very_ cheap for DU to effectively pay for. So this won't work not because of the program stopping but because land prices went up.
 
yomomma said:
Well I guess I lucked out.

26 acres in muskoka with 1500 acres of crown land just behind us. Land locked.

$15K for the property, another $6K to build a basic shack.

Yah I have to hike in, but in 4 years I have only ever seen a few snowmobliers.
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Man, imagine what that kinda setup goes for in todays insane market
 
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