Shot... Drop in Gas Piston System for AR

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Saw it at the show. 5 minute install of drop in parts, no mods or fitting required to existing parts. Converts your AR into a gas piston system.

11.5 to 16" barrels only. They are screaming for a Canadian Dist.
 
The vendor has a video of when they were testing the finished model. They bought 2 identical AR's and installed the drop in system on one of them.

They fired them both on full auto non-stop, just to see what would happen. The regular AR just heated up so much it caught fire under the hand guards. You can hear one of the guys in the video yelling FIRE, FIRE. lol
The guy shooting the rifle was yelling back, I AM, I AM.
 
The ares system doesnt follow a straight center line, so forces go off to one side more then the other, shearing the area thats weakest, at the threads where the parts come together. give the americans more time, they relase there stuff as early as possible and use people as beta testers, it takes years for them to work out the kinks.
 
Company is Osprey Defense, I have their glossy product sheet.
safetysystemscorp. c o m is the listed website, but I cant see it on the site.
Product is called OPS-416
 
Scarecrow said:
The ares system doesnt follow a straight center line, so forces go off to one side more then the other, shearing the area thats weakest, at the threads where the parts come together. give the americans more time, they relase there stuff as early as possible and use people as beta testers, it takes years for them to work out the kinks.
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I thought the ARES bolt carrier was a one piece design, rather than a "screwed on" type of deal?

Check this out, i think the ARES system is a one-piece bolt with the striking face integral:

Unless your talking about where it meets the front sight base, in which i agree with you. Better to have the piston a single strait rod, so that 100% of the forces are transferred to the bolt carrier, and doesn't put undue stress on the op-rod.

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I dont really agree with the idea of a "Drop-In" system either. Thats like turning an AK47 into a Direct Impingement system, or the HK roller delayed system. If your gonna make a piston AR, just built it up from the ground like LWRC, HK, POF etc....
 
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Strikes me that what they really need to do is design the system around a modified FSB with an integrated gas cylinder to keep everything concentric and minimize the number of parts.
 
Scarecrow said:
Bolt carrier? When did I say bolt anything?

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You didn't, thats why i wasn't sure. Since you said "at the threads" i thought you may have meant that the piston "striking face" was bolted on like the gas key on a normal bolt.


But yes, the offset piston op-rod and piston system is kind of worrying, and it would seem to put a lot of stress on the FSB.

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like i said here:

F22_RaptoR said:
Unless your talking about where it meets the front sight base, in which i agree with you. Better to have the piston a single strait rod, so that 100% of the forces are transferred to the bolt carrier, and doesn't put undue stress on the op-rod.
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Sorry for the confusion :)
 
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