Pre 64 Mod 70 375

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I was fortunate to pick up a Pre War Mod 70 in .375. The rifle has definitely seen a few sights, the rifle remains completely original except for the addition of a Lyman Aperture sight, the remnants of a Paul Jaeger side mount are also present and a somewhat rustic piece of ivory has been added as a grip cap.

By my small amount of research the rifle was made in 1942

The stock has the telltale crack from sitting in a low moisture area for most of its life.

Is anyone aware of a ready source of aftermarket stock? I’d like to keep the old one, either correctly repaired or simply because of its history.

I know the rifle is somewhat uncommon, but I intend to keep it as a “user” either by sourcing a new side mount or with the Lyman sight. My gunsmith could fix the stock, chase out the checkering and fit a new pad or I could simply replace the stock , maybe with a synthetic one and save the old one as a curio.

What would you do?
 
Teh stock is actually more likely cracked because of poor bedding. If the stock is sound enough, I'd have the gunsmith fix and reinforce the crack, then properly pillar bed it and refinish and recut the checkering. I'd opt for bedding the barrel with epoxy too, making full firm contact with the barrel boss & the fore end screw. Many others would prefer a floated barrel. Either will work. I would also remove the ivory grip cap and replace with something more pleasing to the eye. You'll have a classic firearm that is better than the original because the action bedding on those rifles was never the best. Then go off to Africa, the Yukon, or Australia and slay a few large beasts!
 
I was fortunate to pick up a Pre War Mod 70 in .375. The rifle has definitely seen a few sights, the rifle remains completely original except for the addition of a Lyman Aperture sight, the remnants of a Paul Jaeger side mount are also present and a somewhat rustic piece of ivory has been added as a grip cap.

By my small amount of research the rifle was made in 1942

The stock has the telltale crack from sitting in a low moisture area for most of its life.

Is anyone aware of a ready source of aftermarket stock? I’d like to keep the old one, either correctly repaired or simply because of its history.

I know the rifle is somewhat uncommon, but I intend to keep it as a “user” either by sourcing a new side mount or with the Lyman sight. My gunsmith could fix the stock, chase out the checkering and fit a new pad or I could simply replace the stock , maybe with a synthetic one and save the old one as a curio.

What would you do?

So what I did. I have a pre-64 Win Model 70 in 30-06 - as per serial number, it was made in 1955, so not as old as yours. It also had had some version of side mount at one time - I re-threaded those holes and installed three plug screws. I was able to find the correct Weaver top bases and installed them. The rifle wears a Weaver V9-II scope, which I guessed would be about period correct for the time that the rifle's original owner would have decided to install a scope. I used Warne QD rings because the rifle barrel still had the iron sights, including a front sight "hood".

I have not yet fired it - the recoil pad says "Pachmayr" on the end, and is the "white line" spacer type - again, not original to the rifle, I do not think, but more or less period appropriate. The chequering on the wrist and the forearm appear to be flat-topped style - not really as "grippy" as chequering on other rifles here - as discovered a long time ago by some British shooters, maybe "not grippy" is a good thing on a heavier recoiling rifle - saves some skin on your hands. But it was done rather haphazardly around the edges of the panels - so it may or may not be factory done. I have not yet found any cracks in the wood to deal with.

Since I read several books and articles by Finn Aargaard, I would suggest that you consider a low powered Weaver scope (or Leupold, or something). His first Model 70 375 H&H had an aperture sight; his second had a 2 1/2 power Weaver scope - he had written he was able to take some shots in dark, shaded situations with the scope, that he could not have taken with the aperture sight. As per a comment above - whatever sighting system that you intend to use most, stock it for that - line of sight for irons and a scope are not the same - I suspect if you are going to build up a "fighting rifle" that you probably want it to fit to you well - in the clothes that you would plan to be wearing.

If you want it mostly for "looks" - I would be with the recommendation to get that stock repaired as well as possible - is multiple ways to do nearly invisible repairs - epoxy or pins inside where it is not seen, and so on - but first try to figure out what caused those cracks and splits and address that, first - but you will never really get past those holes drilled and tapped into the left receiver wall. In my opinion, and for me - this 1955 made one is not really stocked well for scope use - but is a thing for you to consider.

I enjoyed to read the writings by Finn Aargaard - I think his wife, Berit, took Cape Buffalo Number 50 with the second Model 70 375 H&H that he had owned. Not sure many of us will get to live the kind of life that guys like he had, so may as well read those stories - not sure if you want that rifle as something to "look at" or as something to "fight with" - that might influence your choices going forward. In at least one article by John Barsness, he describes the pre-64 Win Model 70 stocks as "clubby" - he says he has trimmed down several - I do not think they are actually very well done, if the intent is to use a scope - but sounds like they sold well, and people like Jack O'Connor seemed to think highly of them, apparently.
 
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I had the same problem with my pre 64 .375, mine had a good crack in the web between the trigger mortise and mag well. I searched around for a composite stock, at the time (6-7 years ago) I couldn’t find much for the h&h magnum length action.

I ended up building my own from walnut, I use a vx3 1.75-6x32 and find it a good balance for my hunting. The 2.5-8 would be my next pick I think. With the previous stock, the rifle had a Williams peep on the back, I really liked it for inside 150 yards and in thicker bush.

I load mine mild with H4895 and a 260gr partition, it’s been my primary moose rifle now for a number of years. If I was to run full charges all the time, I think I’d add some cross bolts for extra support

You’ll be happy to have such a rifle whichever direction you go. If it were me, I’d stick with wood, either custom or original.
 
Thanks for the input. I’m going to get the rifle to the gunsmith in the next couple of weeks. I have a second .375, a Brno that was Rechambered to .375 Weatherby, it was purchased as a base for some small customization and will be scoped as well, especially now that I have the Winchester, the 70 came from an estate and fell in to my lap completely. The Brno holds 6 down and will be far easier to scope. I’d like to take the Brno to Africa eventually.

As it sits I think the Mod 70 is going to get a stock repair and a new recoil pad, then I will sight it in with some 300gr SPs and leave it at that. The Brno is probably the best recipient of a synthetic stock and possibly a barrel trim, although it shoots 300gr PPU and Noslers to the express sights pretty well so I may just leave it.
 
Wheat ever you do do not full length bed the bbl channel does nothing for shooting accuracy or strength and is ugly besides bed the action correctly and make the repairs needed and it will be fine it's not like it will see 100's of rounds fired weekly at the range .
 
For note, I left the front screw out on my rifle’s new stock, and bedded only the action and first 2” of the barrel. Seems to work well with my setup.
 
I was fortunate to pick up a Pre War Mod 70 in .375. The rifle has definitely seen a few sights, the rifle remains completely original except for the addition of a Lyman Aperture sight, the remnants of a Paul Jaeger side mount are also present and a somewhat rustic piece of ivory has been added as a grip cap.

By my small amount of research the rifle was made in 1942

The stock has the telltale crack from sitting in a low moisture area for most of its life.

Is anyone aware of a ready source of aftermarket stock? I’d like to keep the old one, either correctly repaired or simply because of its history.

I know the rifle is somewhat uncommon, but I intend to keep it as a “user” either by sourcing a new side mount or with the Lyman sight. My gunsmith could fix the stock, chase out the checkering and fit a new pad or I could simply replace the stock , maybe with a synthetic one and save the old one as a curio.

What would you do?

Pre64win dotcom is a great source for parts for Pre64s.
 
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