Ammunition and Customer Service Issues

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Thanks to cwblackwell88 for sharing this, and glad to hear you are still “ intact” !!
I gave up on WM remanufactured ammo, especially their .308 stuff, several years ago.
Of the 600 or so rounds I bought, 10% of it would not fully chamber in all 3 of my .308 rifles.
I have had better luck with bulk Norinco….
 
Cadex : If they got you to sign a waiver..they are not 100 % sure. I know it hurt financially, myself, I would have get the action changed. They had it in hand, and could have ask for a full warranty..new gun after all..just for piece of mind down the road.
Me, I could not imagine, each time I pull the trigger, wondering if all will be alright. But it’s me.

I am not saying you have done anything wrong just not my way.

Anyway, all of this is a very upsetting event..specially when you are just happy to go shoot a new rifle..just sad.
 
By the looks of the burst case, and the fact that its a 5-6 shot new rifle leads me to believe there is a headspace issue. Did they repair just the bolt or the whole action? waivers aside, glad you weren't physically injured. Just my observations.
 
Janeau said:
And you the mother of all lost cause can shove it too.. blocked from one hole to the other..as soon that it’s not going your way..you just cannot accept it…

« They also required me to sign a liability waiver, as the could not see any immediate problem with the chamber/action, but would not guarantee it was up to their standards without replacing everything. »

You can read but you, clearly , do not understand it..
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You going to start barking, "its the law of the land" again.
You didn't understand what the op posted and what I posted, and you go off on your tangents as always.

Edit to add. Your level of comprehension is of a 6 year old. I stated clearly that I could see wm's viewpoint except on "not my problem" for the sole reason they didn't make it even though its branded for their company.
Yet you choose to run off at your mouth instead of stopping and thinking for just a second.

Clearly "you ain't too smart, boy".
 
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Light Infantry said:
You going to start barking, "its the law of the land" again.
You didn't understand what the op posted and what I posted, and you go off on your tangents as always.

Edit to add. Your level of comprehension is of a 6 year old. I stated clearly that I could see wm's viewpoint except on "not my problem" for the sole reason they didn't make it even though its branded for their company.
Yet you choose to run off at your mouth instead of stopping and thinking for just a second.

Clearly "you ain't to smart, boy".
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I see this Janeau guy talk down on people for the majority of the posts he makes.

He's a real character.
 
cwblackwell88 said:
And again I will re iterate, I know this post will hurt business, and I am no longer looking for compensation. Loss of my business alone for them is more than I am losing on the dmaages. Once I made this post I made the decision that I would not accept anything from them. This was not for my gain.

I am making this because I was blown away by the response, and because I was shocked to find out I wasn't even buying ammo manufactured by them all these years.

I was also shocked that they would not want to get this ammo out of my hands to prevent the possibility of someone else shooting it.
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Wait… THEY STILL HAVEN’T TAKEN THE AMMO BACK?!?
 
So ammo in an 11yr old box exploded a brand new rifle? And the same guy exploded a 9mm with ammo by the same company, but probably newer?? The odds are astronomical that this is all just an ammo problem. And this guy shoots the cheapest commercial reloads in a new Cadex? Sure, I’ll buy some beachfront land in Prince George…
 
WM's clarification showcased critical info was omitted by OP. Possibly to make sure he had the strongest case on here (11yr old second-hand reloaded ammo?! Cmon). Afaik, we don't know the full story and it would be unprofessional of WM to leak the entire "series" of emails to the public to clear their name on this forum. Worse comes to worse, maybe they need to make a video or a full length post explain the entire situation. But like someone else pointed out, this is all coming from a single source. Maybe if there was an onslaught of other members sharing a similar experience I'd be more willing to side with OP. But too little is known from either side to truly know who's in the right or wrong. (Imo both are prolly in the wrong to varying degrees XD)

In the grand scheme of things, a good rule of thumb is don't shoot reloaded ammo you bought in something expensive/priceless if you don't 389% trust it. And keep your receipts :p

This is good drama though ngl
 
Light Infantry said:
It wouldn't be so bad if he made valid points. But he just spews gibberish. If you are going to be a jerk at least be correct and on point while being a jerk
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Some valid points, especially signing a waiver from CADEX.

That's an unsettling thought running through your mind at every trigger pull.

Buying used ammo is dicey, who knows where it's been stored.

Buying private label ammo , whom the private label buys from the cheapest possible place with who knows what for quality control is also dicey
 
FatCatsDad said:
Some valid points, especially signing a waiver from CADEX.

That's an unsettling thought running through your mind at every trigger pull.

Buying used ammo is dicey, who knows where it's been stored.

Buying private label ammo , whom the private label buys from the cheapest possible place with who knows what for quality control is also dicey
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Totally have to agree, not saying what WM did from a business practice/ customer service point of view was right, but I can see the other side of this to.

Who breaks in a barrel with reloads/privately ammunition?

Maybe it’s just me.

I also can see the side where WM can’t even validate those rounds are the ones they sold. A lot can happen in 10 years, hell when I reload I tend to reuse old packaging and cartons. What’s to say that wasn’t a box someone hand loaded a little too hot, just because their name is on the box the round came out of doesn’t mean it was a factory round.
 
Shooting Edge or Shooting Center?

WM records show the last batch they sold was 12 years ago, even though the claim is this was purchased 4 years ago?

There is no receipt on this transaction?

My question is this - why did the vendor sell reloaded ammo that was 8 years old?
 
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Light Infantry said:
It wouldn't be so bad if he made valid points. But he just spews gibberish. If you are going to be a jerk at least be correct and on point while being a jerk
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Why listen to his advise. His idea to stop damage to the overhead baffles, is to ban steel core/jacketed ammo. Not do anything about the idiots aiming at the baffles, and testing the safety net. He showed years of neglect but it's the ammo fault and not the shooters. A serious issue he refuse to acknowledge. Since then, any advice he spews goes into the Sunray files.
 
I have used a fair bit of WM ammo in the past with no issues. I found it to be good but have found the prices to be a bit higher than I would like in recent years. Next sale I see I would not hesitate to buy myself.
 
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