Lets talk CWD

bunny said:
Funny how most would not eat it , but offer them Chinese made snacks full of melamine and other possibly radio active good stuff and they will chow down like Oprah on a baked ham.
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Laugh2 So true!! I read all food labels in the grocery stores and don't buy any food products from China or India. As for the deer to be honest I start eating them before my test results are even returned and I know lots of others who do the same. Personally I'd rather take my chances on anything wild over domestic. Quite a few of my friends said they won't touch waterfowl this year either due to Avian Flu. Hasn't stopped me and won't stop me from eating it. I've never experienced any issues eating wild game but if I eat beef I have a gout attack within hours so I quit eating beef almost 6 years ago and no more gout attacks.
 
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bunny said:
Funny how most would not eat it , but offer them Chinese made snacks full of melamine and other possibly radio active good stuff and they will chow down like Oprah on a baked ham.
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Agreed, honestly I’ll take my chances with wild game. We had about 4-5 years of head collecting and testing in my region, to my knowledge no evidence of cwd was found. I submitted multiple heads but I didn’t stop eating anything, if I was going to not eat the meat I hunted I’d just stop hunting. I’m not out there to just kill game animals, I’m there to fill my freezer first and foremost.
 
I wouldn’t risk it.

Also, according to the Alberta regs it’s like 80% of all recorded cases are mule deer. I wonder why they seem more susceptible than others. We had ours tested but thankfully negative. I’m not sure there was much risk in 314 but better safe than sorry.

over 106,000 heads tested since 1998, we detected C D in 4028 mule deer, 689 white-tails, three moose, and 21 elk. This includes 1156 cases identified in 11,086 heads tested in 2021 (10.4%): 984 mule deer, 164 white-tails, and eight elk.
While the overall proportion of infected wild cervids remains low, prevalence of C D in some mule deer populations i sa significant concern to deer managers. Hunters and landowners are concerned about fewer deer, particularly male mule deer, in local areas where C D is well established. Deer infected with CWD die within two years. With prevalence over 50% in mule deer bucks ni some local areas
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My guess is that due to the draw system the Mule Deer are of an older age class than the Whitetails.
 
The mule deer are sick in eastern Alberta. We find dead deer, dying deer, sick deer while hunting. It is hard to find mature animals in cwd zones due to the number of tags they give out and sick deer don’t get old with good head gear.

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m1008 said:
Lots of prion disease can affect humans, thank game farms, hunters using deer p*ss and a general lack of knowledge
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It's generally believed that CWD originated at a Colorado government research facility where they had a pen of sheep infected with scrapie and that it somehow made the jump to become CWD in mule deer which were in the same pen at a later date.
 
bearkilr said:
It's generally believed that CWD originated at a Colorado government research facility where they had a pen of sheep infected with scrapie and that it somehow made the jump to become CWD in mule deer which were in the same pen at a later date.
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Sheep scrapie started mad cow in England courtesy of Margaret thatcher, if I remember correctly.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/oct/29/bse.focus1

Idiots look for guidance and safety from government
 
bearkilr said:
It's generally believed that CWD originated at a Colorado government research facility where they had a pen of sheep infected with scrapie and that it somehow made the jump to become CWD in mule deer which were in the same pen at a later date.
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Yes, that is my understanding as well. A few years later 90 cow elk were purchased from an elk farm in Colorado by a Saskatchewan elk farm.They went through the normal quarentine process and were declared disease free. These were sold as breeding stock to other start up, elk farmers all over Saskatchewan. These elk were later diagnosed as positive for CWD. No one knew anything about the disease back then. It has been called an epidemic in slow motion. This is an app description; 30 years later, here we are with a serious problem. Perhaps deer will become resistant to it over time through genetic selection? In the mean time, they haven't been able to isolate prions in yearling deer. So, they should be safe to eat if one is concerned about the slight chance that it could jump the species barrier to humans.
 
Not sure where the information in the above two posts comes from - I read it was University of Colorado pens, not gov't of Colorado pens - and the animals found infected there were elk, not mule deer. And I believe the infected animals to that Neilburg Sask game farm might have come from New Mexico, not Colorado. But I am not going to bother to find those sources. As per Post #31, scapies in sheep was documented in England in 1700's - not sure there is any evidence that "scapies" prion has ever affected the thousands or tens of thousands of human sheep handlers - ever - since then.
 
Potashminer said:
Not sure where the information in the above two posts comes from - I read it was University of Colorado pens, not gov't of Colorado pens - and the animals found infected there were elk, not mule deer. And I believe the infected animals to that Neilburg Sask game farm might have come from New Mexico, not Colorado. But I am not going to bother to find those sources. As per Post #31, scapies in sheep was documented in England in 1700's - not sure there is any evidence that "scapies" prion has ever affected the thousands or tens of thousands of human sheep handlers - ever - since then.
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I was attending University back in the 80's and thinking of getting into elk farming. I did a lot of research, so I stand by my earlier post. Are not Universities publicy owned and hence "government institutions"? The infected animals were most definitely Mule deer and they ( the survivors) were released back into the wild at the end of the study. I agree that the risk of the prion jumping species is extremely rare.
If you talk to the elk ranchers in Saskatchewan, the standard line is that the disease has always been here. (Something you implied as a possiblity in an earlier post.) That is clearly not the case. It was spread by trucking elk to various locations.
 
Mass Culling is Dumb but what do you expect from the Govt and "Experts".

It is exactly how natural selection works, some will be resistant or immune and will be more successful at breeding.
 
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