BCL Has a 9mm carbine design coming?!

Obviously none of the people on this thread have ever worked in the engineering field if they think there are never any delays or Q/C issues on the release of a new product
 
A bolt 9mm is the gunny equivalent of the crap my MIL fills her house with. Made by BCL means expensive and ####ty function. If it costs more than a Hi Point it’s overpriced.
 
FARMHANDYO said:
Obviously none of the people on this thread have ever worked in the engineering field if they think there are never any delays or Q/C issues on the release of a new product
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BCL has a long history of #### product, under several names. You are an inexperienced shill. Talk is cheap. You want to convince anyone, be quiet until a great product at a good price is in our hands. Until then, you are the same as a door to door magazine salesman.
 
emerson said:
BCL has a long history of #### product, under several names. You are an inexperienced shill. Talk is cheap. You want to convince anyone, be quiet until a great product at a good price is in our hands. Until then, you are the same as a door to door magazine salesman.
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I would argue the MRX bison in 5.56 is a better product than the Ruger American Ranch in its current state. There is a good product that’s not talk. I also have no affiliation with them at all lol
 
FARMHANDYO said:
Soon all you will have is bolt actions unless another conservative majority happens somehow. And by the time that happens the only interesting rifles will be coming from Canadian manufacturers. Ruger and keltec are not going to care that Canada can’t get semi auto 9mms anymore doesn’t affect them. But the Canadian manufacturers will create an alternative. Yet all these Canadian gun owners do everything they can to ensure that BCL fails as a company. Really is baffling
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You all? .. Umm you are included in thus ####ery as well.
 
FARMHANDYO said:
Obviously none of the people on this thread have ever worked in the engineering field if they think there are never any delays or Q/C issues on the release of a new product
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NEA, BCL.. Yet to produce a firearm that did not have QC issues. I seen barrels with the gas ports drilled fully thru the barrel, brakes explode, bolts shear.

You figured after the first they step it up. But it go so bad. That they tried as a new company, still issues followed.
 
OkayShooter said:
NEA, BCL.. Yet to produce a firearm that did not have QC issues. I seen barrels with the gas ports drilled fully thru the barrel, brakes explode, bolts shear.

You figured after the first they step it up. But it go so bad. That they tried as a new company, still issues followed.
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I am assuming that they can make a low pressure bolt action 9mm carbine without an issue. I’m just saying with bill c-21 how is anybody going to be able to have a rifle in 9mm without these Canadian companies? I’m not saying that BCL is perfect (as was suggested) although they have stepped up in a number of ways.
 
FARMHANDYO said:
I am assuming that they can make a low pressure bolt action 9mm carbine without an issue. I’m just saying with bill c-21 how is anybody going to be able to have a rifle in 9mm without these Canadian companies? I’m not saying that BCL is perfect (as was suggested) although they have stepped up in a number of ways.
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You know what happens when you assume.
 
FARMHANDYO said:
Quick question. Would rather have a BCL made 9mm carbine bolt action that works fine or no 9mm carbine ever again in Canada?
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Those aren't the only futures available - hopefully we're still at the point where BCL (or whoever) can produce what the market wants and needs?

Why choose 9mm when there are better suited cartridges for precision or hunting (the typical use cases for bolt actions, of which many pedigree rifles already exist in those cartridges)?

I'd bet most 9mm fans generally shoot offhand "action" with target ammo at <50 yards and are happy with 3" groups? Sure, some might buy a 9mm bolt as "a spare" but it'll be low volume / niche. Whereas an action-oriented 9mm-magfed-pump in a sci-fi shortform ambidextrous format with 21+ round mags could appeal to newcomers and existing 9mm fans alike.
 
FARMHANDYO said:
Quick question. Would rather have a BCL made 9mm carbine bolt action that works fine or no 9mm carbine ever again in Canada?
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Getting mag angles correct is a PITA. There isn't many 9mm bolts out there. Personally rather see a 357 mag rifle. At least you can use it for hunting.

BTW, people will still build something. As long as there are rifles and barrels. People will find a way to mate them.
 
joemanco said:
Those aren't the only futures available - hopefully we're still at the point where BCL (or whoever) can produce what the market wants and needs?

Why choose 9mm when there are better suited cartridges for precision or hunting (the typical use cases for bolt actions, of which many pedigree rifles already exist in those cartridges)?

I'd bet most 9mm fans generally shoot offhand "action" with target ammo at <50 yards and are happy with 3" groups? Sure, some might buy a 9mm bolt as "a spare" but it'll be low volume / niche. Whereas an action-oriented 9mm-magfed-pump in a sci-fi shortform ambidextrous format with 21+ round mags could appeal to newcomers and existing 9mm fans alike.
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You are correct in that no one is interested in a 9mm bolt action rifle for precision shooting, but many shooters are happy with plinking accuracy and affordable ammo.

.22lr is king of this realm but if a person wants a bit more kick the 9mm is a nice option and it's unlikely that bolt action 9mm rifles will get caught up in an "ever brown" flush form the turd and the other usual suspects.

BCL has nowhere to go but up as far as I'm concerned.... I've never tried any of their products beyond original NEA parts made for the VZ's that I was happy with.

It's going to take a decade or so of wins before the echo of past failures subsides a bit, but I'm an optimist, and I'm rooting for them to succeed.
 
People on here are saying why not make it a 357. I am saying 9mm because it is so cheap to reload it’s almost free to shoot. If the liberals ban every 9mm semi auto rifle a bolt action is what will have to get used t. Who knows maybe they could make a straight pull one or something cool
 
the way the everbrown folk roll, they things like no detachable magazines over 5 rounds for everything and heading towards break action single shots..... cause "no body needs" blah blah blah.

What's your buddy's estimation of time line on this project? BCL's timelines have been off by about 6 months or more lately.... I don't mind being teased a bit but last time I looked at their website half of their up coming projects were no where to be found.....
 
FARMHANDYO said:
People on here are saying why not make it a 357. I am saying 9mm because it is so cheap to reload it’s almost free to shoot. If the liberals ban every 9mm semi auto rifle a bolt action is what will have to get used t. Who knows maybe they could make a straight pull one or something cool
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Almost free to shoot? Let me know where you are getting these really cheap reloading components. Only thing free you can get is picking up range brass.

Last I've seen it was close to 300$ to buy 1000rds of 9mm at a store. Reloading is easy 250$ with today's prices on components. Oh yeah and the several hundred dollars for the actual reloading gear.

That new 9mm lever is close to 2k. I see this being close to 1500$.
 
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