Big Game hunting in Grizzly country

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23 people a year on average die in BC due to winter sports, mostly avalanches. 10 people a year in Canada used to die of lightning strikes, which with education has declined to 2-3 in recent years. Average bear fatalities? 2 to 5, in all of the United States including Alaska, and Canada combined, for both species of bears. Pulling up an attack from a decade ago, or plotting decades of attacks on one map, does not make an epidemic.

You’re still more at risk from the bacon on your plate with breakfast, even as an avid outdoorsman. Can a bear attack happen? Of course. Is it a high risk factor? Of course not. But we’re primal beings, wired through our evolution to pay great heed to predators and fear them. It’s understandable why it’s such a captivating topic, we’re still running an operating system developed 40,000 years ago.

And again, packing a gun feels good, it feels like adventure. I’ve enjoyed that sensation in a few environments with their apex predators intact. I hope it doesn’t continue to get rarer and rarer globally. But I won’t stay home just because I don’t have a gun.

If you're explaining you're losing.

You're the guy that got an ATC to play Cowboy, now bacon is a bigger threat.

People are victims of their own experience, I've always considered the Black Bears around here to be Gentlemen, rarely seen during the day, instantly up a tree when confronted with by a dog. Then I have a guy tell me about a predatory encounter 2 miles from my house, 2 guys yelling and throwing rocks at a Black Bear that just kept coming.

I know multiple guys that have been mauled by bears.

I'd bet the stats work out to 1-2 maulings a month along the spine of the Rockies. This is from less than 1000 bears, compared to what, 100,000,000 lightning strikes.
 
Just asking what facts and stats Ardent has ignored, cause I've missed em. Pretty upfront question.

That attacks happen? Don't think anyone is denying that.
 
Dismissive... is a better word. There were several upfront questions asked. None answered.
No one is denying the attacks happened. What is being questioned is why more, where, and for what reason. Behavior type questions.

These aren't face to face convo's right? Different people see and read things... differently.

R.
 
If you're explaining you're losing.

You're the guy that got an ATC to play Cowboy, now bacon is a bigger threat.

People are victims of their own experience, I've always considered the Black Bears around here to be Gentlemen, rarely seen during the day, instantly up a tree when confronted with by a dog. Then I have a guy tell me about a predatory encounter 2 miles from my house, 2 guys yelling and throwing rocks at a Black Bear that just kept coming.

I know multiple guys that have been mauled by bears.

I'd bet the stats work out to 1-2 maulings a month along the spine of the Rockies. This is from less than 1000 bears, compared to what, 100,000,000 lightning strikes.

It rains on everyone. 99.9% of the world’s population will never see a grizzly bear. You are correct. That comparison is stupid.
 
from what I gather from this thread is there are bears in the woods but as long as you have a little situational awareness you almost dont even have to worry.

one should be more worried about being attacked by a person then a bear.

there are so few attacks with millions of people in the same woods bears reside, its goes to show its fun to talk about but not really a reality, similar to shark attacks
 
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bc grizzly bears are a different breed. More closely linked to a teddy bear. The real pricks live in alberta. By chuck.
You don’t take the same chances with an alberta bear that you do with a bc grizzly.

Laugh2 and just where is the source of your info
 
I'm late to this thread, but since it started out about hunting in grizzly country, let me add this. I’ve been on numerous northern BC moose hunts in which I've seen grizzlies, but have ignored them, hoping they'd go away. In most cases, I was hunting with a 7 mag. (with 175-gr. partitions) and had a bear attack taken place, I think I’d have been adequately, although not optimally, armed. On the other hand, on dedicated grizzly hunts many years ago, I took two, each at under 30 yards. Both were taken just outside Tweedsmuir Park (just northeast of Bella Coola), and both with my 9.3x64 Brenneke-chambered fully-custom Sauer rifle. The 9.3x64 Brenneke (a 300-gr. bullet at 2500 fps) is a ballistic twin of the .375 H&H, albeit in a beltless and more compact case, and for a dedicated grizzly hunt, I'd want something similar in power. Scope was an older Zeiss Diavari-C 1.5-4.5x18. Pics below of a head mount (done by Steve Kulash) in my den of one of these bears and the rifle; actual skull shown below the mount:

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The fact is that Grizzly populations are snowballing as are the problems. While we are only 5 years into the "ban" in reality we are close to 30 years of extremely limited Grizzly hunting.

Quite frankly the naysayers either don't have a clue or are being disingenuous.

I feel your frustration on that one. Different species but likely similar enough situation
 
Interesting thread for sure. Always a challenge to pick out the knowledgeable posts from the pseudo "experts". SOME is easy to tell, others, takes some critical thinking of the aggregate of posts by a particular poster to distinguish REAL knowledge from conjecture. It can be a fun exercise though and invariably one learns SOMETHING, hopefully the facts rather than the conjecture but still......
 
Please point me to 4 seperate lightning strikes on people in less than 2 weeks.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/hunter-mauled-by-grizzly-in-fourth-b-c-bear-attack-in-10-days-1.2562261

The fact is that Grizzly populations are snowballing as are the problems. While we are only 5 years into the "ban" in reality we are close to 30 years of extremely limited Grizzly hunting.

Quite frankly the naysayers either don't have a clue or are being disingenuous.

do you have any study for counting bear population? there is only one sure thing on bears we do not know the numbers ...
 
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