Small shotgun for bear defense

boxhitch, the lowest profile overall has got to be the Crimson Trace laser saddle and a forend with an integrated light. Streamlight TL Racker would be my pick for a forend.

There may well be forends with integrated light/laser, I don't know. But most forends wobble quite a bit, meaning point of aim could move accordingly...
 
alpining said:
boxhitch, the lowest profile overall has got to be the Crimson Trace laser saddle and a forend with an integrated light. Streamlight TL Racker would be my pick for a forend.

There may well be forends with integrated light/laser, I don't know. But most forends wobble quite a bit, meaning point of aim could move accordingly...
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For many reasons, I strongly believe in an integrated light on the forend but I'm pretty sure that if you're faced with taking on a menacing bear with a shotgun, a sighting laser is not what you need.
 
Big Bad said:
For many reasons, I strongly believe in an integrated light on the forend but I'm pretty sure that if you're faced with taking on a menacing bear with a shotgun, a sighting laser is not what you need.
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Agreed, if you have a problem bear and it’s got to the point of shooting it it’s going to be close enough that irons will likely be the quickest/easiest way to aim. You’re muscle memory will be more important than trying to find the laser dot as it’s advancing on you.
 
I'm not a huge fan of lasers on firearms, but then again I've never tried one. I think you could argue that they make more sense here than in many other applications: They don't replace your irons, and they do give you additional sighting options. They might make something like the birdshead shotguns easier to shoot more accurately.
 
alpining said:
I'm not a huge fan of lasers on firearms, but then again I've never tried one. I think you could argue that they make more sense here than in many other applications: They don't replace your irons, and they do give you additional sighting options. They might make something like the birdshead shotguns easier to shoot more accurately.
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They are great for housecats. You can get them to chase the light until you can maneuver them into a good shooting position. :p
 
53Izzy744 said:
Remember, even though it possibly saved this man's life, It is illegal to carry firearms in national parks. Because those bears are trained not to attack much, kinda, i guess.

Alberta hiker fined $7,500 for shooting black bear in Jasper National Park
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6897845
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The bear was across a creek 30m away, hardly sounds like a life or death situation.
 
bearkilr said:
The bear was across a creek 30m away, hardly sounds like a life or death situation.
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True, according to him he fired a warning shot and it stuttered then took a few steps towards him.

A bear can cover 30m in 3 seconds. So a bear coming towards you, possibly 3 seconds away, even with a tiny creek between you, may still be considered a threatening situation to most.
 
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53Izzy744 said:
Remember, even though it possibly saved this man's life, It is illegal to carry firearms in national parks. Because those bears are trained not to attack much, kinda, i guess.

Alberta hiker fined $7,500 for shooting black bear in Jasper National Park
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6897845
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I find it highly improbable.that this guy lived in Alberta and did not know he could not carry a firearm in the.National parks- especialy when by his own admision he has frequented them!
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ALWAYS carry in Parks sorry we will decide t right wrong after the fact.Check Liard hot springs episode cost a few lives even with someone carrying...
 
All Canadian National Parks that I have been in, and specifically Banff and Jasper have prominent signs at the entrance advising that firearms are prohibited and through travellers must report and have any firearms sealed to transport it through the park. I don’t see how anyone could plead ignorance of this regulation unless they were blind and then they wouldn’t have a gun anyway.
 
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