Mod. 7 vs 700
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So you got a PREDATOR Model . I have owned them in 223 - 22-250 -243 . Not much difference then a M700 SA - all M7 s have a hindged floor plate . Really not a lot different- same mag box length but M7Action is shorter but has a 1/8 “ longer load port . M7 action is lighter to build an ultra light rifle on . RJ
The only reason the M7 action is lighter is because it is shorter than a M700 .
I Have a Custom Built Ultralight in 6.5 CM 20 inch barrel ! 4-10 oz bare .
A Nearly completed - Stock to be completed - M7 Light in 6 CM .
And a new M7 light to be built in 7-08 .
I have 2 cross breeds M7-M600s - one is a 284Win 22 “
The other is 308 Win 20 “
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As the original Model Seven were shorter in length and design to allow for shorter, lighter rifle, the rear of the action only had one screw hole tapped for mounts. This causes the need to find bases or mounts specific to this action for mounting optics.
They did build some attractive little rifles; particularly the laminated Model Seven Mannlicher offered from the Custom Shop! Would still like to have one in 250-3000!
The other con was that many complained that the shorter, lighter action wasn't as stiff as the 700 action, and therefore potentially less accurate.
Many owners have tended to disagree as they found their rifles plenty accurate. So this comes down to the owner and the level of accuracy that find acceptable in their rifle. Not every hunter requires benchrest rifle accuracy for hunting deer and other game in the thick brush where 100 yards is a long shot!
I do not recall for sure, but there may have been some variance in the trigger too...perhaps someone with more knowledge and experience with the Model Seven can comment on this.
I cannot say from personal experience, as I have never owned a Model Seven to be able to wring it out for accuracy, and performance in the field for hunting...and this just because they weren't offered in left hand and I stayed with the 700 for this reason.
They did build some attractive little rifles; particularly the laminated Model Seven Mannlicher offered from the Custom Shop! Would still like to have one in 250-3000!
The other con was that many complained that the shorter, lighter action wasn't as stiff as the 700 action, and therefore potentially less accurate.
Many owners have tended to disagree as they found their rifles plenty accurate. So this comes down to the owner and the level of accuracy that find acceptable in their rifle. Not every hunter requires benchrest rifle accuracy for hunting deer and other game in the thick brush where 100 yards is a long shot!
I do not recall for sure, but there may have been some variance in the trigger too...perhaps someone with more knowledge and experience with the Model Seven can comment on this.
I cannot say from personal experience, as I have never owned a Model Seven to be able to wring it out for accuracy, and performance in the field for hunting...and this just because they weren't offered in left hand and I stayed with the 700 for this reason.
The 7 and the 700 are the same action. The 7 is just shorter, and built for compact cartridges like the 243, 260 etc. The advantage to the 7 (other than the minor weight difference) is that with a shorter action the rings are closer together, so it's easier to get a proper eye relief on cheaper scopes, as you have more room on the scope tube to move it backward toward your eye. Other than that they're the same thing.
The other con was that many complained that the shorter, lighter action wasn't as stiff as the 700 action, and therefore potentially less accurate.
Lol ! NEVER heard that one before
There actually STIFFER then a M700 they have a shorter body length with all other dimensions being Equal ! RJ
Lol ! NEVER heard that one before
There actually STIFFER then a M700 they have a shorter body length with all other dimensions being Equal ! RJ
The reason they said the shorter action was less stiff was the fact that there is less metal in the back of the action in the Model Seven than there is in the comparable SA Model 700 action, and therefore less strength, due to less mass. So, not quite equal in all dimensions.
Otherwise, yes, a short action would normally be stiffer than a long action of same design.
Here's a link to view:
https://rifleshooter.com/2015/05/remington-model-seven-and-700-comparison/
Note: a correction to my first post; I stated that there is one rear action screw, but article shows that memory was off. There are two, just very closely spaced together compared to the Model 700 rear mounting holes.
Otherwise, yes, a short action would normally be stiffer than a long action of same design.
Here's a link to view:
https://rifleshooter.com/2015/05/remington-model-seven-and-700-comparison/
Note: a correction to my first post; I stated that there is one rear action screw, but article shows that memory was off. There are two, just very closely spaced together compared to the Model 700 rear mounting holes.
NO you were correct as All the early actions only had 1 rear screw Later actions have 2 screws . I have had drilled and tapped many actions to use the 2 screw bases RJ
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Yes the Warne is a nice base if you want to use reg scope ring system . Before the warne base was available we milled the cheap weaver to be like the Wayne base is . BUT i like the LW TALLEYS so we had to drill and tap the 4 th hole. RJ
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