Until every human being has the exact same measurements and proportions? Yeah.
And yeah on the lots of rifles and some distinctly fitting better/being more comfortable than others.
Again, none of em couldn't have been mastered, but again, why.
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Until every human being has the exact same measurements and proportions? Yeah.
And yeah on the lots of rifles and some distinctly fitting better/being more comfortable than others.
Again, none of em couldn't have been mastered, but again, why.
I know what I like a gun to feel like when I shoulder it! I really like my Belgium Browning BAR 30-06, I also like my Husqvarna mannlicher stock carbine 9.3x62! And for sure my Danzig mauser 98 in 8x57, these 3 rifles fit me the best! As much as I like Ruger no1’s, they don’t fit me nearly as well! I have quite large hands and almost 7’ of arms span so longer length of pull and a more open grip are my favourites!!
Here is a picture of a cheek piece and cast stock compared to a straight line as best I can represent it. The cheek piece provides support to your face while allowing them to move away from each other during recoil. The cast allows your eye to align with the centre line of the bore. You look where the rifle points. Preference is preference. We can all do what we like. But stock design and shape do make a difference. Even in the field.
Good amount of cast on for that stock, shave off the cheek piece and it would be perfection for a hunting stock IMO.
Can’t buy into the recoil thing but appreciate the reply.
I used two 700's for many years, both with McMillan stocks, 7-08 and a 338WM. Last 10 yrs has been a mix, Ruger #1, Krieghoff SxS, Merkel K1, Win 1885. Depends what I intend to do that day, walk a lot or not. Cartridge wasn't important as I'd shot enough stuff with the 7-08 to appreciate what it could do, last year, used the 1885 in 300H&H, just because I like it, this year will likely be back with the K-gun, which is a 30R Blaser, may take a 6.5CM or a 7-08 for second gun.
Looks like recoil for a trap load from a 7.5 lb 12 ga going off of what I can find quickly enough online from charts is 18 ft/lbs recoil energy.
That's 308 Win level, not 300 WM. Those look like about 28-29 ft/lbs from an average 150gr load to 32 ft/lbs with a 180gr out of an 8.5 lb setup.
Velocity of that recoil is also probably very different, considering the 12 ga payload is a bit over 33% the speed of the rifle round.
Anyway, doesn't seem they'd feel very alike at all. One definitely felt easier here.
That's 308 Win level, not 300 WM. Those look like about 28-29 ft/lbs from an average 150gr load to 32 ft/lbs with a 180gr out of an 8.5 lb setup.
Velocity of that recoil is also probably very different, considering the 12 ga payload is a bit over 33% the speed of the rifle round.
Anyway, doesn't seem they'd feel very alike at all. One definitely felt easier here.
Saying a gun that delivers 18 ft/lbs of recoil to your shoulder is different from one that delivers 32 ft/lbs of recoil to your shoulder is different is math gymnastics?
That's possibly the most ignorant thing I've ever read on these boards, and that bar is set high enough that you need bottled oxygen to get over it.
People recommend stuff like a 308 to the recoil averse. No one ever says "hey you don't like kick, try a 300 Win Mag".
You're wrong. Trap loads are like half of what a 300 WM does. Sorry lol
How much recoil does a 7.5 pound 12ga have with 1250 fps ounce and an eighth?
Make that 300 win mag 7.5 pounds as well with a 150gr load and compare.
It’s math gymnastics.
And when you figure that out I’ll change the next question and so on.
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If a gun doesn’t fit and point where my eyes were looking before I shouldered it, it gets traded or sold, or I make a new stock for it if I like the metal enough. That’s my most important factor in a hunting rifle.
Different methods of hunting call for different requirements in a rifle. I will continue to desire a rifle that points where I look quickly offhand or when dropping to a knee or quickly shooting from a sitting position
If you are spot and stalk in agricultural areas of the foothills and varmint hunting in the prairies and shooting solely from prone etc this may not apply.
If you are calling moose and Elk in rifle season in Northern BC or still hunting deer/black bears in the forested foothills or west coast jungle it might seem slightly more important...
I will continue to have straight combs, peep sights or low mag scopes mounted as low as possible on my hunting rifles, different strokes
If you are spot and stalk in agricultural areas of the foothills and varmint hunting in the prairies and shooting solely from prone etc this may not apply.
If you are calling moose and Elk in rifle season in Northern BC or still hunting deer/black bears in the forested foothills or west coast jungle it might seem slightly more important...
I will continue to have straight combs, peep sights or low mag scopes mounted as low as possible on my hunting rifles, different strokes
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I purchased a Finnlight 85 and would probably give up shooting if I had to shoot with that stock. It's in 30-06 and the muzzle jump was unbearable. The scope would hit the bill of my hat, knocking it back and I was developing a flinch. The jump may have be the majority of the issue but it also seemed to hit me harder than what I was comfortable with.
I switched to a McMillan Edge stock and it is now a comfortable rifle to shoot. The Edge stock is actually lighter however I believe it is made off the model 75 design, perhaps even the Rem 700 design with a Monty Carlo type rise at the cheek. It pushes straight back without the obnoxious jump and I don't notice the recoil.
I guess I am in the fit matters group and have passed along some very nice accurate rifles that just were not for me.
I switched to a McMillan Edge stock and it is now a comfortable rifle to shoot. The Edge stock is actually lighter however I believe it is made off the model 75 design, perhaps even the Rem 700 design with a Monty Carlo type rise at the cheek. It pushes straight back without the obnoxious jump and I don't notice the recoil.
I guess I am in the fit matters group and have passed along some very nice accurate rifles that just were not for me.
Ardent
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It’s a pragmatic statement actually, and first thing I check when I pick up a rifle. A rifle that fits and points is a joy to work with, one that takes adaptation from the shooter is a nephew you don’t want to hire but have to.
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