In BC can we legally hunt Schedule C feral pigs with nightvision devices?

trebor2880 said:
If we can extinct the passenger pigeon and dodo bird, surely we can extinct a pig who can't even fly!
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Just reminded me of Homer Simpson chasing the flying pig “it’s still good, it’s still good”


I have seen many news reports suggesting that hunting makes the pig population worse as some are suggesting here, but if trapping whole herds works so good, why hasn’t that stopped the pig problem then? I feel the anti-hunting narrative may be coming from the anti gun crowd. Meanwhile wild boar went extinct in Britain and some other places from hunting. Likely it’ll be like rat populations … a little of this and a little of that to just keep the numbers in check.
 
Odinson said:
Yes, that was just another dumb government idea. They should be putting a price on them!
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A gov worker sitting at a desk in toronto had a dream the hunting would scare the pigs into further hiding so this is the mantra followed. No common sense on the ground knowledge is used when making laws or regs
 
Piggy.jpgI saw this little one just south of the Ottawa airport. In the pic it looks like he's just wandering around home but he was making steam down the road. He got pretty feisty once I interacted with him. I would not have gotten out of my vehicle.
 

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If you live on a farm in BC with livestock. Are you allowed to protect them after sunset since you’re not technically hunting ? Would that be coded in the BC Farms Act ?
 
DaedalusX said:
If you live on a farm in BC with livestock. Are you allowed to protect them after sunset since you’re not technically hunting ? Would that be coded in the BC Farms Act ?
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Do your own due diligence but it is protecting PROPERTY, which is not exclusive to Livestock.
 
DaedalusX said:
If you live on a farm in BC with livestock. Are you allowed to protect them after sunset since you’re not technically hunting ? Would that be coded in the BC Farms Act ?
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We have this lovely section under the Criminal Code which can be very open to interpretation for a wide range of weapons and ammunition charges.

Careless use of firearm, etc.

86 (1) Every person commits an offence who, without lawful excuse, uses, carries, handles, ships, transports or stores a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any ammunition or prohibited ammunition in a careless manner or without reasonable precautions for the safety of other persons.
 
canadian hunter312 said:
Care to break down my post and elaborate on which parts are nonsense? I need a good laugh…
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I can tell you're from Ontario.

The notion that unhunted pigs will somehow regulate their population at a lower level than hunted pigs is nonsensical. Hunted pigs will absolutely avoid areas where they are hunted and the more marginal areas will not support the same number of pigs.

Pigs have been extirpated from entire Countries by hunting.
 
MiG25 said:
I can tell you're from Ontario.

The notion that unhunted pigs will somehow regulate their population at a lower level than hunted pigs is nonsensical. Hunted pigs will absolutely avoid areas where they are hunted and the more marginal areas will not support the same number of pigs.

Pigs have been extirpated from entire Countries by hunting.
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I spent almost nine years working in the bush in Panama, Colombia and Nicaragua where peccaries (javelina) are native. I NEVER EVER saw even one despite one of the gold mines I brought into production being called Javelina.

That's because they are hunted heavily. EVERYTHING edible is hunted heavily in those countries. Even the monkeys, iguanas and armadilloes go on the BBQ or into the soup pot.

So yes, heavy, dedicated hunting reduces the numbers of any population if the hunters are motivated/hungry enough.

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bearkilr said:
We have this lovely section under the Criminal Code which can be very open to interpretation for a wide range of weapons and ammunition charges.

Careless use of firearm, etc.

86 (1) Every person commits an offence who, without lawful excuse, uses, carries, handles, ships, transports or stores a firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device or any ammunition or prohibited ammunition in a careless manner or without reasonable precautions for the safety of other persons.
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The key words in that are "without lawful excuse". Keeping a firearm handy ready for use on a farm to protect crops,livestock from predation constitutes "lawful excuse".
 
Trimmer 905 said:
The key words in that are "without lawful excuse". Keeping a firearm handy ready for use on a farm to protect crops,livestock from predation constitutes "lawful excuse".
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It's a slippery slope and depends on each province's wildlife act. For example here in Manitoba, I'm not allowed to shoot wild ungulates, game birds or even a cougar in protection of my livestock. And while Ontario has legal culling for birds like cormorants, it's akin to shooting a bald eagle here. Messed up.
 
MiG25 said:
I can tell you're from Ontario.

The notion that unhunted pigs will somehow regulate their population at a lower level than hunted pigs is nonsensical. Hunted pigs will absolutely avoid areas where they are hunted and the more marginal areas will not support the same number of pigs.

Pigs have been extirpated from entire Countries by hunting.
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Think of it this way. They keep telling us that we're changing the "climate" of the entire damn planet, killing all the sea turtles, whales and w e else in the oceans along with how many other land species we've made endangered or outright extinct already? Their "solution" to all these issues is govt. regulation.

But these pigs! These pigs!! Never could the common man get rid of them if we left him to his own devices. So lets regulate him to the point where he can't succeed if he's following our rules, then regulate some more to attempt to perform the job we're preventing him from doing.

Humans are very good at death, destruction and making #### go extinct when motivated enough.
 
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This is the first I've ever heard the theory that killing more animals will make more. I can't compute this type of logic...
 
FLHTCUI said:
Do a little Google research on the Coyotes of Rodeo Drive in California.
You confuser just might open your eyes just a little.
Seriously, it is a thing .
Rob
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Wait, they tell us wolves suppress the coyote population, but they respond to human suppression by increasing...

Coyotes were scarce when there were lots of hungry people around and the value of the hide meant the difference between an empty belly and a full belly.

If anything, high predator populations are either a sign of luxury or that the population is oppressed.
 
FLHTCUI said:
Do a little Google research on the Coyotes of Rodeo Drive in California.
You confuser just might open your eyes just a little.
Seriously, it is a thing .
Rob
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Strangely, I don't have any problems believing that the coyotes on Rodeo Drive, are NOT actually getting shot at all that much. Coyotes ain't dumb, they will adapt to fit in anywhere they don't get hassled, and the eats are good!

FWIW, the regs here in BC are pretty clear, when it comes to livestock protection. Day or night, all is fair, pretty nearly. Have, honestly, shot more dogs than coyotes in the last few years, and spent a fair buck on meds to patch up my sheep after the dogs had gotten at them. Not surprisingly, nobody ever came looking... Supposed to call in bears and cats to the CO's if you grease one. BTDT, was painless. If they don't have someone wait-listed for the meat, they tell you to just dump it where the rest of the bodies go!
 
trebor2880 said:
If we can extinct the passenger pigeon and dodo bird, surely we can extinct a pig who can't even fly!
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LOL you would think right?

There are lots of videos on line of both hunting and trapping wild hogs. Trapping seems to be the most effective (both cost and numbers) method but the night hunting with tactical vision gear is pretty cool to watch.
 
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