9.2 x 57 Husquvarna Sporter

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It followed me home from the Switzer auction.

I have 8mm brass that I can neck up.

Is there such a thing as a cheap cup and core bullet? Something around 250gr would be nice for this metric 358Win.

I need dies, too.
 
The only "cheap" cup & core bullets I know of are Prvi 285 gr, Speer 270 gr and Hornady 285 gr.

I had one years back and I was loading 44-45 grs IMR 4064 with the Prvi bullet. Velocity was ~2000 fps and shot to the sights.

Good luck on the dies, they're hard to find and not cheap.
 
For dies, check CH Tool and Die. I've just bought a 338-06 die set and parts to put a couple of dies back together from them . I phoned them, they are good guys to talk to, very helpful . You might want to get them to mail the die set to you so you can do the brokerage fees at the post office. UPS is highway robbery. I have an address across the line and pay tax at customs for the pricey stuff. The dies are pricey, but you are getting custom dies.
 
Thanks for the PMs/

I found dies on ebay for $50 US.


Best I could find on bullets was the Speer Hot Cor at about $34 US per 100

I have 2000 lead pistol bullets for the Makarov. I will see if they work for plinkers.
 
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Ganderite said:
Thanks for the PMs/

I found dies on ebay for $50 US.


Best I could find on bullets was the Speer Hot Cor at about $34 US per 100

I have 2000 lead pistol bullets for the Makarov. I will see if they work for plinkers.
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At the velocities you're pushing those bullets, Speer Hot Core will work very well on any game animal in North America.

Intersurplus has some specialty type 9.3 bullets that are monolithics and I load them in my 9.3x74R for my Drilling. I haven't shot anything with these bullets yet but they do shoot into 2 inches at 100 yds.
 
Ganderite said:
It followed me home from the Switzer auction.

I have 8mm brass that I can neck up.

Is there such a thing as a cheap cup and core bullet? Something around 250gr would be nice for this metric 358Win.

I need dies, too.
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When making brass for mine, I found opening up and trimming 30-06 brass worked better than necked up 8x57. As for cup and core bullets, Speer 270's have always worked well for me in all my 9.3's. - dan
 
For dies, try Intersurplus - Hornady makes a set for 9.3x57. You can still get factory brass for this too, probably at Intersurplus as well.

Norma makes great bullets in 9.3, but they're definitely not cheap. Have you looked at Speer or Prvi?
 
For sizing that brass - I started with new PPU 8x57 - as per that WhyNot guy (Ted Wagner) on CGN - was directed to postings on another website by "Darryl" somebody or other - so end up using multiple dies to get that brass formed to nearly straight wall - I used a "home made" plug for Lee Flaring tool, then, for last step to make straight wall cases - now I have a Lyman 41 Mag sizing die that seems to be close expander ball size - then set 9.3x57 die (is Hornady brand "Custom Grade Dies" set) in reloading press and turn down a bit at a time - to create "false shoulder" to match to that rifle's chamber - end up with very close to no "end play" for headspace - no clue if that was to anyone's standards, since I could not find proper headspace gauges anywhere. But, I believe these brass fit to that chamber - what counts for me - I suspect the shoulders get fully blown out upon full power firing - maybe more than one firing to do that completely - but endplay for headspace starts and stays minimal. I think there are many that have had satisfactory results simply running 8x57 brass into 9.3x57 die and calling that "good enough" - might be all that you need or want to do? The expander ball on those Hornady Custom Grade Dies seem to be shaped like long taper and appear to form 8 mm case necks into 9.3 mm in one pass.

This one was very much "put together" rifle - a 9.3x57 Husqvarna barrel, a random Swede military receiver, another random Swede sported bolt, another sporter stock, various surplus Swede Mauser small parts - objective was to get all working and firing adequately - I got there - but maybe I went through much commotion that others do not need to do, including forming some brass. From here in Manitoba bush, or Sask. towns that we lived in, I have never seen 9.3x57 ammo or brass for sale, so does not matter (to me) if that chamber is to anyone's specs - this one only going to be firing brass formed with these dies - do not really care if my ammo fits into anyone else's rifle of that nominal cartridge.
 
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dan belisle said:
When making brass for mine, I found opening up and trimming 30-06 brass worked better than necked up 8x57. As for cup and core bullets, Speer 270's have always worked well for me in all my 9.3's. - dan
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Thank you.. I have lots of 30-06 brass. Not so much 8mm.

I have 30 cal lead bullets. i wonder if I could use some fast power and fire-form?
 
Not sure how to hold back a rimless case to fire form it - no belt like 7mm Rem Mag into 458 Win Mag, or rim like 303 British into something else - except that front shoulder of the brass? If you know how to, let us know. I just can not see how to fire form to 9.3x57 using .30 cal bullets, but maybe is possible to do??

I have done some "fire forming" using the "Cream of Wheat" method - but that was only on some belted cases.
 
Potashminer said:
Not sure how to hold back a rimless case to fire form it - no belt like 7mm Rem Mag into 458 Win Mag, or rim like 303 British into something else - except that front shoulder of the brass? If you know how to, let us know. I just can not see how to fire form to 9.3x57 using .30 cal bullets, but maybe is possible to do??

I have done some "fire forming" using the "Cream of Wheat" method - but that was only on some belted cases.
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Good point.

Just found this. Lots of info:

http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=76602
 
I am quite sure that "Darryl S" guy was the writer who gave me the idea for expanding 8x57 brass to full diameter, then coming back down to set headspace end play - might have been on a different website, but same process, I think. Thinking about it - if you trimmed back 30-06 case, might be possible to do without having to go to full diameter? I believe the 30-06 brass would have much more "body" to get the shoulder where you wanted it? At least the Hornady dies would take care of the neck sizing - if you had figured out a case length, first.

I do not know if significant, but good amount of re-formed 9.3x57 neck wall from 30-06 brass is going to be from former body area - whereas re-formed from 8x57 is mostly from former neck wall - I do not know if that is significant difference or not.
 
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with 286/285 grains you can reach the speed that was originally set up for the 9.3x62 so 2150fps without a problem and i doubt any game here will complaint about it.
 
When I bought mine several years ago, I did it with the intention of immediately rechambering it to 9.3X62, which I did. The cost to rechamber was minimal (the cost to rent the reamer) and henceforth I had a gun for which I and future owners could use 9.3X62 dies and brass and that could do everything the 9.3X57 could do (and at lower pressures), and more, using a wide variety of published load data. Made it easy to sell too, which I did because I later made up a rifle in 9.3X62 on a mauser 98 action using a new barrel, again from Tradex.

I use 30-06 brass and have shared the process I follow on CGN, as well as load data. A great chambering and the reason I sold my 35 Whelen.
 
Andy said:
When I bought mine several years ago, I did it with the intention of immediately rechambering it to 9.3X62, which I did. The cost to rechamber was minimal (the cost to rent the reamer) and henceforth I had a gun for which I and future owners could use 9.3X62 dies and brass and that could do everything the 9.3X57 could do (and at lower pressures), and more, using a wide variety of published load data. Made it easy to sell too, which I did because I later made up a rifle in 9.3X62 on a mauser 98 action using a new barrel, again from Tradex.

I use 30-06 brass and have shared the process I follow on CGN, as well as load data. A great chambering and the reason I sold my 35 Whelen.
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Yep, but have to pay attention to details - was a guy who posted on CGN that his 9.3x62 Mauser would not accept factory rounds into the magazine - was a "re-reamed" 9.3x57, but on a Swede 96 Mauser action (or maybe it was another Small Ring 93 or 95 Mauser action), not a 98 Mauser action - the magazine was too short, although someone ran a 9.3x62 reamer into that 9.3x57 chamber.

It can most definitely be done - is a STIGA 30-06 here that was done from a Swede 96 or similar - but that required lengthening the mag box, grinding behind the lower locking lug, re-contouring the feed ramp, etc. STIGA apparently then had their rifles "proof tested" in Denmark. I think at least one another Swede company - Vapen Deptonen (sp?) - did similar, but I never owned one.
 
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Great thread on under looked at rifle. If Privi would run a lot of 9.3x57 brass sometime it would be great. I have found factory brass hard to find therefore fire forming other brass the simplest. PPU bullets work good but for informal target shooting I have a NOE made gas check mold and another plain base mold made by Leo at Boomers molds. For published load data, the Norma load book and the Norwegian Ladeboken has 9.3 x57 data.
 
Bought my 9.3x57 maybe 10 years ago. Necked up 8x57 brass worked fine. I ordered a bullet sizing die from Lee, it sizes .375" bullets down to .366". Probably my favorite bullet is the Speer 235gr .375" sized down.
 
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