The next cartridge you would like Hornady to develop
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Donny Fenn1
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Funny, sometimes I want a shorter action. An actual 223 family sized action? Could you put 6 Dasher in that? Or is it better served by the traditional 308 short action?
You can mill out a 700LA action to fit a 4" Wyatt box, but you're single feeding anything longer. That's what alot of 338 edge guys do.
They should neck up 6 ARC and call it 6.5 ARC that would be amazing
hilarious, I totally agree
Ardent
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I hear ya, the SRH can chamber the proper Linebaugh too, Bowen builds lots of them. I find it a bit of a shame Ruger didn’t adopt and further legitimize the proper Linebaugh and do the Linebaugh adaptations in house. Doesn’t make the .480 a bad cartridge, I’ve just had a fascination with the .475L since I was a teen.
I had a Freedom Arms 83 in it before I realized I couldn’t deny I’m an auto guy at heart.
I had a Freedom Arms 83 in it before I realized I couldn’t deny I’m an auto guy at heart.
If we had more reasonable gun laws I'd be all over a 480 revolver as well. Maybe the perfect intersection of power and recoil
Had a thing with super mag pistol cartridges in rifles, had the 500 S&W handi, and 454 casual rossi. The 475 linebaugh ruger no 1 was the holy grail.
I think a 500 S&W bighorn is more likely one of these days, if only they made a straight grip. Still holding put for a no 1 in that chambering
Maybe Hornady should come out with something along the lines of the 50 B&M wildcat
I'd love to see an ass kicking mid or big bore cartridge come out from a major maker. I think 375 raptor has what it takes because it appeals to the subsonic and AR crowd. Sign me up for an 84m
Had a thing with super mag pistol cartridges in rifles, had the 500 S&W handi, and 454 casual rossi. The 475 linebaugh ruger no 1 was the holy grail.
I think a 500 S&W bighorn is more likely one of these days, if only they made a straight grip. Still holding put for a no 1 in that chambering
Maybe Hornady should come out with something along the lines of the 50 B&M wildcat
I'd love to see an ass kicking mid or big bore cartridge come out from a major maker. I think 375 raptor has what it takes because it appeals to the subsonic and AR crowd. Sign me up for an 84m
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You can, and lots do, but it still doesn't cut it as well as a proper set up would.
R.
Well the 375 exists already it's a 375 ruger
I've got a 224 Texas trophy hunter reamer with your name on it. Will push 75s to something like 3700fps can imagine a 50 grain would probably break 4k.....
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People will spend ridiculous amounts of money to get to a 75% solution when, for pennies more, they could do it right the first time.
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howa mini
cz 527 (discontinued but maybe their new one?)
sako 85 XS and some other XS previous models
ruger chambers the Hawkeye hunter in .204, (doubt it's a '.223 length action' but haven't really looked into it, seemed to make more sense to do grendel or arc to me for big game legalities and more sales)
ruger m77 7x62x39 was around for awhile but no longer, maybe it could donor to a dasher? it's just a barrel swap away from grendel/arc (I'd love to find one)
browning have any .223's?
kimber/Cooper? a little Kimber grendel/arc/dasher would be pretty cool unsure if they had any .223's I think Cooper did but you'd be looking for used
my buddy does dashers off rem 700 short actions and aics type mags with the kits in them from recollection,
totally agree a hole in market now that we have 21st century efficiency with modern ballistics in a number of these AR length short fats, what's missing is decent quality actions in this length to support these popular short fats
I don't understand Ruger's decision to chamber .204 ruger in the Hawkeye hunter without adding .223, grendel, arc...weird. Be a nice coyote callers rig but so singular in purpose with .204, guessing it will be a collector one day as can't be many of them moving.
as for the subject...no, there is already too much modern heavy for cal high bc in the range of calibers now, I see room to move to the next level of this, if there is room?, can twist rates work?, can we make these bullets even longer now and hit another level of efficiency? ie; 135gr 6mm with .8 bc and .327 sd (using say the 220gr .308 cal .331 standard as we know in solids that was enough for dangerous game in Africa)...if there's room it could be in 6mm and .257 but going to 130 gr range in 6mm and into the 150 range in .257, keep recoils in check but put bc's and penetrations through the roof for a whole new level of performance in air and swimming
it's a new direction to another level above the current 21st modern ballistics range of options that hornady needs to look at next, and work out terminal ballistics as thoroughly as inflight ballistics are worked out might be an even better step to take before going to the next level of inflight/terminal? we need terminal ballistics calculators and different measures understood and known about all bullets so we can objectively choose and compare instead of subjectively arguing head stamps and ft/lbs etc. 30 pages every time the subject comes up online, we're way behind there and stuck in the 20th.
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RJThere's room to go to the next level of high BC, but you likely need to use solids. Alot of these long range cartridges don't have the boiler room to go much heavier and still gain performance.
The nice thing with solids is they're super consistent. The big issue with solids is alot of our barrels aren't twisted fast enough to stabilize them. Throating is also an issue.
The nice thing with solids is they're super consistent. The big issue with solids is alot of our barrels aren't twisted fast enough to stabilize them. Throating is also an issue.
howa mini
cz 527 (discontinued but maybe their new one?)
sako 85 XS and some other XS previous models
ruger chambers the Hawkeye hunter in .204, (doubt it's a '.223 length action' but haven't really looked into it, seemed to make more sense to do grendel or arc to me for big game legalities and more sales)
ruger m77 7x62x39 was around for awhile but no longer, maybe it could donor to a dasher? it's just a barrel swap away from grendel/arc (I'd love to find one)
browning have any .223's?
kimber/Cooper? a little Kimber grendel/arc/dasher would be pretty cool unsure if they had any .223's I think Cooper did but you'd be looking for used
my buddy does dashers off rem 700 short actions and aics type mags with the kits in them from recollection,
totally agree a hole in market now that we have 21st century efficiency with modern ballistics in a number of these AR length short fats, what's missing is decent quality actions in this length to support these popular short fats
I don't understand Ruger's decision to chamber .204 ruger in the Hawkeye hunter without adding .223, grendel, arc...weird. Be a nice coyote callers rig but so singular in purpose with .204, guessing it will be a collector one day as can't be many of them moving.
as for the subject...no, there is already too much modern heavy for cal high bc in the range of calibers now, I see room to move to the next level of this, if there is room?, can twist rates work?, can we make these bullets even longer now and hit another level of efficiency? ie; 135gr 6mm with .8 bc and .327 sd (using say the 220gr .308 cal .331 standard as we know in solids that was enough for dangerous game in Africa)...if there's room it could be in 6mm and .257 but going to 130 gr range in 6mm and into the 150 range in .257, keep recoils in check but put bc's and penetrations through the roof for a whole new level of performance in air and swimming
it's a new direction to another level above the current 21st modern ballistics range of options that hornady needs to look at next, and work out terminal ballistics as thoroughly as inflight ballistics are worked out might be an even better step to take before going to the next level of inflight/terminal? we need terminal ballistics calculators and different measures understood and known about all bullets so we can objectively choose and compare instead of subjectively arguing head stamps and ft/lbs etc. 30 pages every time the subject comes up online, we're way behind there and stuck in the 20th.
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Ardent
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As for shorter actions, that’s the Kurz Mauser, .250 Savage length, .473” bolt face, was done a hundred years ago. Common, it is not unfortunately.
On Hornady products, I’d like the .17 Mach 2 get more attention, and a relaunch, but with a FMJ load available. It’s a sweetheart of a little round, and more actions ready for it than any other cartridge… any .22. I’d like to be able to plink with the kids, accurately, without them handling lead.
On Hornady products, I’d like the .17 Mach 2 get more attention, and a relaunch, but with a FMJ load available. It’s a sweetheart of a little round, and more actions ready for it than any other cartridge… any .22. I’d like to be able to plink with the kids, accurately, without them handling lead.
