Are new calibers 7mmPRC,300PRC,the WSMs practical,realistic option for hunting??

Spruster said:
so there is a diff or maybe not in hunting conditions ... Am asking what benefit to the PRC in hunting 400 yards ?
I don't know , or like you said None
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Inside of 300 or even 400 yards no deer will know the difference between a 7mm Rem Mag or a 7 PRC shooting a 160gr Nosler Partition, or a 300 win mag or 300 PRC shooting a 180gr Accubond, only the deer nut behind the gun knows the difference stamped on the end of the cartridge,
If you want go hunting and shoot long range as well with factory ammo and you want to buy a new rifle chambered for such buy a rifle chambered in a new PRC cartridge, they are just a modern version of an old 1960s cartridge design !

Again you can have the best of both worlds with the new chamberings,
 
Weatherby Fan said:
Inside of 300 or even 400 yards no deer will know the difference between a 7mm Rem Mag or a 7 PRC shooting a 160gr Nosler Partition, or a 300 win mag or 300 PRC shooting a 180gr Accubond, only the deer nut behind the gun knows the difference stamped on the end of the cartridge,
If you want go hunting and shoot long range as well with factory ammo and you want to buy a new rifle chambered for such buy a rifle chambered in a new PRC cartridge, they are just a modern version of an old 1960s cartridge design !

Again you can have the best of both worlds with the new chamberings,
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You're right and I know
Only problem is your 62 ford/ 2023 .. both outdated
Now , If you will admit to chevy being superior
I will buy a PRC and support you loonies
 
Spruster said:
You're right and I know
Only problem is your 62 ford/ 2023 .. both outdated
Now , If you will admit to chevy being superior
I will buy a PRC and support you loonies
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LOL isn't that the truth, I ordered a 2022 truck in 2021 and it never showed up so they said no problem we will have you a 2023 by May 2023.....well now its Sept and still no truck, Im thinking I may have to switch to chevy.......:confused:
 
Brass is probably more available now than ever for many of these cartridges just have to look to companies like Peterson, alpha munitions, and ADG. They are making brass for many of the "uncommon" magnums and short magnums. As far as quality alpha and ADG are top notch.
 
big bear said:
Not hating on the "modern" new calibers but with our new reality of supply chain issues are they really a practical option??
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In reality, the answer is no. Without brass and a good selection of bullets, we're beat. Same goes for those who shoot older, oddball stuff.

Sure makes the 308/30-06/270 look better these days.
 
SuperCub said:
In reality, the answer is no. Without brass and a good selection of bullets, we're beat. Same goes for those who shoot older, oddball stuff.

Sure makes the 308/30-06/270 look better these days.
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I’m having this debate lately with a PRC of some flavour.. Having two of the three SC mentioned, and given the supply issues across the board and the pricing on factory stuff, kinda makes one wonder if it truly is worth the effort these days..
 
ShrtRnd said:
I’m having this debate lately with a PRC of some flavour.. Having two of the three SC mentioned, and given the supply issues across the board and the pricing on factory stuff, kinda makes one wonder if it truly is worth the effort these days..
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If the extra capability was interesting at all, think I'd flip one of the other rifles it overshadows and invest in the brass and ammo.
 
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Seems like the new trendy line of cartridges is about the only thing brass can readily be had in and from the very best manufacturers.
 
JIMMY 808 said:
Seems like the new trendy line of cartridges is about the only thing brass can readily be had in and from the very best manufacturers.
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Deja vu? We saw this when the WSMs originally came out. Hot commodity for a few yrs then everyone jumped ship on them. Saw more then a few guys show up at my Club at the time all proud to have these 300 WSM, until they went through a half or full box and promptly offer it up for sale to anyone who was there haha..
 
Funny how out of all of them, the winner has been the .270 WSM. Few would have predicted that at the outset, but it makes a lot of sense. Has the least recoil, best trajectory at all hunting ranges, and takes a great recipe and makes it arguably better; a not overly heavy bullet, at high speed, without burning an obscene amount of powder. Essentially, doing the most with the least. I still don’t own one, but I guided it and respect it.
 
ShrtRnd said:
Deja vu? We saw this when the WSMs originally came out. Hot commodity for a few yrs then everyone jumped ship on them. Saw more then a few guys show up at my Club at the time all proud to have these 300 WSM, until they went through a half or full box and promptly offer it up for sale to anyone who was there haha..
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i ve seen that with the 338 and 300 win mag and 300 wsm in the t3 lite. the ones with laminate stock were not affected that much ...
 
Ardent said:
Funny how out of all of them, the winner has been the .270 WSM. Few would have predicted that at the outset, but it makes a lot of sense. Has the least recoil, best trajectory at all hunting ranges, and takes a great recipe and makes it arguably better; a not overly heavy bullet, at high speed, without burning an obscene amount of powder. Essentially, doing the most with the least. I still don’t own one, but I guided it and respect it.
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the one that should have lasted but alas no where to find brass in the actual world ...
 
Ardent said:
Funny how out of all of them, the winner has been the .270 WSM.
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Yet, here in S.Ont (or at least at my Club) they were mostly the 300 variety. You know.. BIG Moose, need BIG Cartridge mentality.

I think the 300 suffered from the other trend at the time which was a switch away from wood to composite stocks and a lack of factory ammo. Winchester Silver Tips weren’t the best offering for them, but were readily avail at the time. Recoil can be a bit stout for most in a tupperware stock in 300 WSM

My Dad and I flipped back and forth between a Tikka T3 Lite in 300 WSM for several yrs about a decade ago. Great rig, everything you’ve come to expect from a T3, light, accurate etc.. Just not fun to touch off a few rnds in a tupperware stock. IIRC it claimed one Cow and really didn’t kill it any dead’er (yup its a word lol) then say a 308, 270, 06, 7Rm or 300 Win would’ve.

We eventually traded that in for my 700Mtn SS in 30-06. Which really emphasizes what SuperCub stated above doesn’t it?
 
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After reading the velocity's Weatherby Fans 7mm prc was getting, I set out to see what my 7mm wsm would do in a short action. With 68 grains of RL26 and 168 gr nosler accubond I got 3050 fps. I think the PRC has a slight edge over the 7wsm and it certainly is better design for long range shooting, however the 7wsm holds it's own and does it in a short action. I got enough brass to last till I shoot out the barrel, then I will rechamber to something else. To answer the ops question, no need to switch from 300win, 30-06, 270 etc, unless of coarse you want something different.
 
The way the industry rolled out the 7 PRC in lock step last year..... I think the cartridge is a very practical hunting round. Especially in the years ahead.
Any of the vendors on here with 7 PRC rifles for sale has a decent supply of Hornady ammunition.

If you reload there is easy to find load data online.

ADG and Peterson brass is available now. Which after reading some interesting posts on a 7 PRC facebook page I will only be using ADG.

I thought it was the most practical chamber design yet. Perfect.
 
If I didn't have an accurate 7mm I'd be looking hard at the 7 PRC. Does everything a rem mag can for hunting, and is a better mousetrap for long range.
The 300 PRC is a modernized 300 weatherby, I think it will do just fine for hunting with good bullets.

I've gotten to the point where I won't buy or build a rifle unless I have enough brass on hand to wear out at least one barrel. If the cartridge stops being supported the only things I'll be stuck with down the road is a burned out barrel and a set of dies.
 
Unholysavage said:
I've gotten to the point where I won't buy or build a rifle unless I have enough brass on hand to wear out at least one barrel. If the cartridge stops being supported the only things I'll be stuck with down the road is a burned out barrel and a set of dies.
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That’s my approach too. I bought enough powder, brass, and bullets to last the life of the barrel and then some, so there’s no need to worry about how popular or available it is. It’s an interesting debate about whether the cartridge will last or not, but personally I don’t really care. Can always rebarrel to something else later if necessary.
 
big bear said:
A nice guy was sighting in his very nice new rifle in 7mmPRC.. He had one boxof ammo, cost him $90.He couldn't get brass and he wanted to reload for his rifle with a premium bullet.So he was shooting ammo at almost $5 a pop to get brass so he could reload with a bullet he preferred.To my old guy mind having an older common cartridge seems more practical.

I have seen a couple of nice used rifles in 300WSM ( I was looking for a Finnlight 75 in 300winMag to replace the one i sold to buy an expensive scope), BUT I couldn't find any 300WSM brass in Canada. I can even get Lapua 300WinMag brass.

Not hating on the "modern" new calibers but with our new reality of supply chain issues are they really a practical option??
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Your post got me thinking & looking around... I have a 7mm Rem Mag, but have been enamoured with the 300 WSM since it came out...

Saw a 300 WSM rifle at a good price & got thinking, boy would it be nice to have one... And then I went looking for some ammo...

Can't find any! (And I know guys with better Google-Foo likely can...) But the bottom line is, I can't just walk into Cabelas, SAIL or CanTire & grab a box or two of various 300 WSM, it ain't on the shelves.

So, no WSM for me... At least not at this point.

Cheers
Jay
 
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