6.8 Western, is it going to last?
- Thread starter sharman
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Wby throats are pretty long to begin with. - dan
Dan, my 22 inch barrelled 270 Wby has been getting over 3100fps with 150gr Partitions for the past 20+ years. Formed using W-W 7mm Rem Mag brass, it has been very accurate, and gets good case life by simply annealing the shoulder/ neck area every three firings.
The 155LRX should be a real winner.
Ted
That's what I've been using in mine (the partitions). But I want to try those 155's. - dan
fade2black
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The 165 ABLR is available at a few retailers and seem to stabilize just fine in a 1-10 twist 270 win.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9B2o8wWsA
Wild_Thing
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People getting +2850 fps out of Winchester 270 with 165 ABLR makes that a longer range deer, elk, moose rifle.
With the side benefit of cheap store bought ammo being available everywhere.
BigUglyMan
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Maybe. That's the bummer about cartridge development...there's no guarantee that your latest and greatest bullets will work in an older rifle. Case in point, my father had a custom 7mm Weatherby built in 1961. At the time it was the epitome of speed and flatness in the 7mm world. But here we are, 62 years later, and the 1-12" twist barrel, while wonderfully accurate, is going to struggle just getting a 160 Scirocco or LRAB to shoot properly (I have yet to try) and you can all but forget about taking advantage of that speed and driving a 175 LRAB or 175 ELD-X, never mind that long slippery 185 RDF. So, while bullet design development over the last 10 years has been amazing, selling it as a benefit to users of legacy cartridges might be a little disingenuous.
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Is this 6.8 Westerner not simply the 270 WSM in disguise? Ballistically at least? 
Weatherby Fan
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Geez the last two times Ive been at the range there was more 6.8 Westerns than 7 PRCs, Im sure it will last looks like a great .277 offering.
I chronographed a guys 175gr load and it was exactly 2720 fps 100 fps less than advertised on the box, both guys had brand new Browning Rifles.
I chronographed a guys 175gr load and it was exactly 2720 fps 100 fps less than advertised on the box, both guys had brand new Browning Rifles.
Wild_Thing
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Ammo, yes, limited. The Winchester and Browning ammo is available in some options. Between the two they have something like 8 different packaged loadings, going from their 162gr Copper Impact up to the 175gr TGK. However, availability in the CAN/US has been limited throughout their lineup. With 162 gr Winchester Copper Impact, presumably for the 1-8" XPRs and 175 gr TGK in Browning brand currently available. Not at the Canadian Tire that I was at recently for the long weekend. Though to be fair that CT had no 6.5 CM, 6.5 PRC either, just the .270, .308, .243, 300 WM and 7MM RM that I saw.
Bullets in suitable weight class, kinda. You have Nosler (165gr ABLR + 170 gr BT), Barnes(155 gr LRX), Sierra(175gr TGK), Hammer(160(1-8"twist) and 162(1-7.5" twist), available and in stock either online or LGS.
Brass - none that I have seen. It is definitely a reloader's chambering. Winchester factory ammo is usually in the meh, category, so likely good enough for the one box of ammo a-year hunter type. You can form and trim brass from the WSMs and SAUMs.
They initially sold quite a few stateside to the curious. They were everywhere at the ranges I visited in the Carolinas when they introduced the rifle and stocked the shelves with ammunition during the pandemic. That is like most things though I guess.
The fact that the heavier Nosler bullets are able to be stabilized in a 1-10" barrel on the .270 chamberings seems to me will provide continued support for heavier bullets in the .277 diameter as reloaders(and there are a few of the shooting .270Win, etc) start gobbling them up as the word gets out.
Wild_Thing
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Kinda his shorter brother without the lawsuit.Is this 6.8 Westerner not simply the 270 WSM in disguise? Ballistically at least?
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Lawsuit?
The lawsuit was initiated by a gun writer ( Rick Jamison)who contend that he was the developer of the Shortmags. Not Winchester .
In reality , P.O Ackley made it many years before by turning the rim off 348 Winchester and necking it down to 6.5, and others wete wikdcatting it into the 300. Etc. using 348 cases and 404 Jeffery as well I think.
The WSM cases are the same outer dimension although they are thicker brass..
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Jamison designed and had made some short mags very, very similar to the wsm's some years before Winchester came out with their design. The Ackley info is accurate. - dan
nowarningshot
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One can look at the Canadian Imperial Magnums, and also see the RUM cartridges. Nothing is new in firearm design, sometimes designs answer a question noone asked, other times the developer is decades ahead of the market.
Say 25yrs ago it was all burningthe most powder down the smallest bores(RUM). Now it's low recoil, high BC, small bore, match chambers. Theres also a snobbery and marketing push for companies to push recent developed cartridges named after that company. The latest golf driver technology, applied to firearms/marketing/corporate profit.
Say 25yrs ago it was all burningthe most powder down the smallest bores(RUM). Now it's low recoil, high BC, small bore, match chambers. Theres also a snobbery and marketing push for companies to push recent developed cartridges named after that company. The latest golf driver technology, applied to firearms/marketing/corporate profit.
