What is everyones thoughts 12 Gauge Double Barrels

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I was looking to get a new shotgun and would like to know everyone's opinion and experience with double barrel 12 gauge shotguns (side by side or over under). I'm looking for this primarily to hunt ruffled grouse, small game and possible water foul ( I do have a 12 Winchester SXP that may be better suited for that).

I would like to know how everyone feels about double-barrel guns and what would your recommendations be.
 
I like double barrels. Your question is pretty broad, I'm guessing you are young and relatively new to the game.. Adding waterfowl to the list, will set limits on what you buy - eg modern, steel compatible, removable chokes, and relatively expensive. If you eliminate that then the list of shotguns grows, as many older guns can be considered. Suggest you look at Intersurplus website to get an idea of what 350$ to 500$ will get you.
 
There's a core of hunting enthusiasts who consider double guns to be the state-of-the-art. I am one of them. When it comes to upland game bird hunting, a well-fitting, balanced, double checks all the boxes. Generally speaking, side-by-sides are the better of the two for the uplands, but for shooters with years of experience using single-barrelled rifles, semi-autos, and pumps, transitioning to U/O's are often an easier step (due to the familiar sight plane). Whether or not the transition continues on to sxs's later is an individual comfort thing.

The question of gauge depends on availability of ammunition, but 12 gauge is indisputably the most flexible. However, in the uplands heavy loads are seldom a requirement so sub-gauges are fully viable options that can have advantages. For example, older hunters such as myself can reduce overall carry weight by 1-3 lbs between a lighter gun and lighter shells. It's important to know that "heavy loads" means shells with 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 ounces of shot. It does not refer to the "drams equivalent" gunpowder charge. Granted there has to be a larger power charge to propel a greater weight of shot, but it's referred to as a heavy load because of the weight of shot and the corresponding recoil that is produced by accelerating it out of the barrels.

So, having said this, there are appropriate shells that are loaded with 3/4 up to 1.0 ounces of shot that are deadly effective in gauges from 28 ga all the way up to 12 ga. The glaring exceptions to this "effectiveness" generality are sharptail grouse and/or pheasants. These two species are surprisingly tough birds. Still, light loads remain perfectly functional, however larger shot sizes must be used to avoid leaving injured birds in the field.

To sum up: Go with side-by-sides or under/overs depending on your initial comfort level. I would recommend choosing gauge based on local availability of ammunition. And, whatever advice you get, spend some time understanding shotgun fit, if you're not conversant in the subject already.
 
I like the speed and handling of a sxs. Also I much prefer the lower opening angle of a sxs more than a ou. In a duck blind or deep snow it makes a difference
Having sxs guns in 10 12 16 20 and 410 has me covered in any situation a sxs is needed. I do enjoy our guns but they don't usually match the feel of a sxs for fast flushing shots
Also there are other options than steel for waterfowling that can be used in vintage guns

Fitment is important when it comes to double guns. If they don't point where you look you will not shoot well
 
OP - A big part of the equation is how much you are willing to spend. For us double barrel enthusiasts, spending 1000$ gets you an inexpensive NIB Turkish gun. Spending 2000$ gets you an inexpensive NIB Italian gun. Spending 3000$ or more gets you a nice gun that you probably wouldnt want to drop in the duck blind.
 
Yes, that is something I have to think of as well. A lot of people here use 12 gauge for the versatility but 16 gauge is also very common.
 
I like double barrels for some things but not for others. An over/under for clay targets and an o/u or sxs for upland shooting and small game. I prefer a semi for waterfowl and a pump for slug hunting.

If you can afford it buy a decent quality o/u in the $3,000 range. Browning or Beretta are the two most commonly available guns in that price range. If you don't want to break the bank CZ and some of the other guns made in Turkey are options. Get an o/u first.
 
I bought a Beretta 686 thinking I'd like it for Upland bird hunting, then I bought a Benelli SBE3 for waterfowl hunting.

It ends up I much prefer the Benelli SBE3 for both waterfowl and upland birds.

The Benelli just feels right (can adjust stock with shims) but everyone is different so it may be different for someone else :)
 
My thoughts on 12g double barrel guns is simple. You’ll want at least a dozen of them……O/U and SxS.

Then you’ll also need a couple dozen in various other gauges.

As for the difference between SxS and O/U, its a matter of personal preference. I like hunting with a SxS and I like shooting clays with an O/U. The beauty of having a dozen to choose from is that you can grab whatever you feel like playing with on any particular day for any particular reason. Very much like having a bunch of women on go. Blondes for upland walks and brunettes for duck blinds…

I just bought another SxS today because, why not. And then a fellow CGN’r messaged me last week about a great deal on flats of 2.5” shells. I didn’t need them, but I chose to grab a flat for the sole purpose of now looking for another gun to shoot those 2.5” shells out of. You get the picture…..
 
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2000$ Nib Italian gun sign me up .
Basically anything of quality new 3000$ and up some good used guns for 2000$ win 23 browning bss fixed chokes
Turkychesyers for 1200$-1600$
 
I'm afraid there like Lays potato chips ,once I tried one cannot stop....:) and looked at a Fausti yesterday ooohh crap
 
Not a 12 gauge, but I also shoot a Charles Daly/Miroko sxs in 20 for swatting chickens.
Action gets kinda tight when busting clays informally ...like say after 25-30 rounds fired.
It satified the itch for a sxs and does what I need it to do when I point it at chickens on the ground or on the wing.
I aint proud :)
reddog you sure it was the shot gun and not the Fausti Sisters you be looking at ? LoL
Rob
 
Don't ask a double gun to do too many things. For ruffed grouse and small game, get either a 20 (or 28 gauge) and keep your pump for waterfowl. You carry an upland gun more than you shoot it, so weight is a big factor.
 
Grouse Man;19841954[B said:
]Don't ask a double gun to do too many things[/U][/B]. For ruffed grouse and small game, get either a 20 (or 28 gauge) and keep your pump for waterfowl. You carry an upland gun more than you shoot it, so weight is a big factor.


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Proper guns have cleavage !!!
And double triggers .

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