General Purpose or Practical Rifles?

geologist said:
.308 WIN, 1x8 SFP illuminated LPVO in low QD rings. Irons zeroed at 25 yards. ACCS reticle zeroed at 100 yards with 150 gr ball.

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Have a similar one but in 30-06. Not the most accurate rifle, but certainly capable taking game at any distance I will use it at. - dan
 
Of the available options on the market and not caring for the "shortie" bolt-guns, I would likely go with the SIG Cross in 6.5 Creedmoor. Lots to like about that rifle, starting with the half-MOA accuracy that mine provides with 147 gr Hornady ELD Match ammo.


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For me, probably a couple that I'd build.
One a 18 1/2" 6.5x55 LH carbine. With iron sights and QD rings with either a Leupold 1-4 or a trijicon with the post reticle.

The other is my 30-06 husky. Ironsights with bases. That way I have the option to add a scope if I ever want too.
 
Some nice well thought out rigs guys, including ammo and elevation solutions etc. Ruger Hawkeye Hunter 20” had my eye, but knowing the Trijicon accupoint 1-6 German #4 with its giant eye box and that 90 degree lift and likely not as slick as a Finn I was thinking Tikka would work, 70 degree, slicker than whale sh1t on an iceberg, 5 round detach (but not flush) though barrel needs a chop, aftermarket for bottom metal and fiddle farting with rail and finding lowest possible 30mm rings (henneberger) could maybe match height of the talley x-lows but really thinking stouter for this project. And all rail possibilities like back up red dot etc.

So then I did a dumb thing and looked at the sako peak 90. Crap it has it all, integral rails, 20” threaded(w/brake or dust cap), flush 5 round detach, 60 degree, and even lighter than the tikka. No smith trips but dang it’s pricey.

Should be an interesting journey with what I end up with. Heck I may have to try them all. I usually do.
 
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blakeyboy said:
Some nice well thought out rigs guys, including ammo and elevation solutions etc. Ruger Hawkeye Hunter 20” had my eye, but knowing the Trijicon accupoint 1-6 German #4 with its giant eye box and that 90 degree lift and likely not as slick as a Finn I was thinking Tikka would work, 70 degree, slicker than whale sh1t on an iceberg, 5 round detach (but not flush) though barrel needs a chop, aftermarket for bottom metal and fiddle farting with rail and finding lowest possible 30mm rings (henneberger) could maybe match height of the talley x-lows but really thinking stouter for this project. And all rail possibilities like back up red dot etc.

So then I did a dumb thing and looked at the sako peak 90. Crap it has it all, integral rails, 20” threaded(w/brake or dust cap), flush 5 round detach, 60 degree, and even lighter than the tikka. No smith trips but dang it’s pricey.

Should be an interesting journey with what I end up with. Heck I may have to try them all. I usually do.
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Is there really any other way? Hahaha

Its a lot of coin but man theres something to be said for having it right out of the box and not having to send things to gunsmiths etc which all ends up costing too. It aint getting lighter or readier out of a box than that!

Think I'd just loctite the living heck out of a Mountain Tactical or other rail onto the top of a Tikka and use Weaver 4 hole rings but I'm a basic b*tch lol

Geologist, that pump Remington is very cool
 
I have two rifles that fit this category. A Ruger GSR in 308 with a synthetic stock with a primary arms 1-6x24mm gen 4 second focal plane scope. This rifle has a 16" barrel with a muzzle break, which I do not normally use, since I find the rifle quite comfortable to shoot since it weighs 7.843 lbs with the scope and rings and has an overall length of 35 inches (The scope weighs 17.9 ozs). I also have a tikka battue in 308 with an Athlon Helos BTR 2-12x42mm first focal plane scope. This rifle has a 20" barrel and weighs 8.304 lbs with the scope and rings and has an overall length of 40 inches (The scope weighs 25.6 ozs). A long time ago I had a Ruger Frontier with a 4x Leupold long eye relief scope. The Frontier was when Ruger first came out with a rifle for the Scout concept. I found that it did not work for me when I was Moose hunting, since I found it difficult to see them when they where standing in from the tree line. I think the Scout concept might work better in more open country.
 
Joel said:
Is there really any other way? Hahaha

Its a lot of coin but man theres something to be said for having it right out of the box and not having to send things to gunsmiths etc which all ends up costing too. It aint getting lighter or readier out of a box than that!

Think I'd just loctite the living heck out of a Mountain Tactical or other rail onto the top of a Tikka and use Weaver 4 hole rings but I'm a basic b*tch lol

Geologist, that pump Remington is very cool
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I had fun doing the build and a big thank you to Rusty Wood for shortening the barrel and remounting the front sight. Peter always does great work.
 
conor_90 said:
Yep, short light, good field of view, back up irons, "points well" and able of taking north American game put to 300 yards.

Could be a 308 bolt, a blr or it could be something like this:

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Lots of ways to skin a cat, but we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater...
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Totally!!
 
I had a blaser k95 in 270 for primary big game rifle for years. Not what I’d call general purpose though. Big game only. Grabbed other things for coyotes, wouldn’t be great with a light on for night protection duty. Or anytime you want to stay in position and send more down range. It was mostly a one trick pony but sure did that trick well.

This thread direction more for taking the universal cartridge and building the most universal ‘do most if not all’ rifle around it. Fast with many rounds, handy, accurate, stainless, robust, muzzle to ~400.
 
blakeyboy said:
I had a blaser k95 in 270 for primary big game rifle for years. Not what I’d call general purpose though. Big game only. Grabbed other things for coyotes, wouldn’t be great with a light on for night protection duty. Or anytime you want to stay in position and send more down range. It was mostly a one trick pony but sure did that trick well.

This thread direction more for taking the universal cartridge and building the most universal ‘do most if not all’ rifle around it. Fast with many rounds, handy, accurate, stainless, robust, muzzle to ~400.
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Yup, and that description sure sounds like a medium power cartridge in a scout type rifle to me. - dan
 
MiG25 said:
Why does a guy need many rounds when the 6.5 Grendel kills them all with one shot?
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In 3 deep this season 250, 200, 183 yards and haven’t even lifted the bolt handle on any of them. Nice when you watch it all in the scope. However when the unit of a g-bear strolled through my camp at 80 yards just before dark you rethink a lot of things in your life lol. The bipod came off and one went up the pipe in a hurry, then the light went on too and glad to have 10 ready to go lol. General purpose is what we’re discussing here, hunting a k95 single shot works great, I used one for years.
 
MiG25 said:
I took a Grizzly at 13 yards with a Ruger No. 1 and didn't feel under equiped.
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Excellent, I’ve been a strong closer all my life and likely do just as good as you lol but that’s for another thread I guess. I spent plenty of time in one man bear sandwich solo sheep hunting with a single shot so I’m not arguing with you, just stating this thread is about more than just a big game rifle thread. Capiche? ;)
 
Well, just as "Elk Rifle" defines the "All Around North American Rifle" once you get into "Bear Defence", that will define it, so you're left with something like a stiffly loaded 270 or 30-06 in Remington 760 with some manner of attaching a light. An Auto Loader would would be better but either the longer range isn't there (SKS) or legality for Big Game (Shotgun) or have a sketchy reputation like the 742. A BAR in 300 WM might be the answer if the reliabily is there.
 
Any reasonably light bolt action rifle, with a standardized magazine, either AR pattern or AICS.

AR pattern mag caliber options: 7.62x39, 6.5 Grendel, 6 ARC. 556 for training.
AICS pattern calibers. 6/6.5 Creed, 7mm-08, 308, 243, and anything else based off the 308 case.

Iron sights, and a MPVO. 2-7, 2.5-8, 2-10 optic. LPVO's are generally heavier than MPVO's. Honorable mention to the Leupold 1.5-5x. That will cover 99.99% of all hunting/SHTF/practical shooting situations for me.
 
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blakeyboy said:
...I see when searching 'practical rifle' all this prs type stuff coming up so sounds like some confusion going on with the terminology, maybe 'general purpose' is the best way and still both subjective descriptions so one would have to describe their interpretation of either I guess?...
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Interesting to think about just the terminology. We generally know what a "PRS rifle" looks like, because the discipline of PRS is well-defined. Same with "scout rifle", because we can use the definition that Cooper gave.

"General purpose rifle" is going to be an empty term: There is no such thing outside of a particular context. There are lots of interesting and smart setups posted in this thread, but unless you have a context similar to the poster, they're certainly not "general purpose". Not that these kinds of threads can't be interesting reading, but they tend to just get people talking about their favourite hunting rifle setups (or maybe that's your goal?).

Since you linked the Lucky Gunner content, are you asking about something like an updated scout rifle concept?
 
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