Propane and Butane

[KodiakII]

Nobody buy Zippos anymore? I always carry one while deer hunting. Figured if you couldn't get a fire going with one you deserved to freeze.

 

[hannibal]

If yer zippo or butane lighter won't go 'cause it's too cold just put it in your armpit (seriously) for a couple of minutes and warm it up. How do think us steel workers light cigarettes at -20 or worse when we're out on the site?

 

[savagefan]

I lost a thermos in May while camping. When getting my hunting gear together
that September I found it again. I knew it would stink, but when ahead and opened it. To my surprise, the coffee was still steaming hot, and was still quite good, didn't taste off or old at all.

That was a good thermos.

No that was friggin' magic.

 

[savagefan]

Well as for hunting in the -45 wind chill. I decided that this weekend I would not go. -40's again and 40- 60k wind.

Last weekend a wore my survival suit and a fur hat with flip downs. I had a pair of gloves (deerskin and synthetic), Columbia boots for -40 rating, battery socks and under armour.

The survival suit as always was amazing. My legs and core were warm as toast. I have no worries in the cold with it.

The boots left a little to be desired, but weren't bad if you moved around moderately.

The gloves were great if you were moving a bit, but at these temps you need Mitts not gloves (lesson learned)

Face and head were fine.

I almost always put the kettle on in the woods and have a little "boil up".

Back home, smoked kippers and smoked herring were the choice for the fire, and whatever other grub was on the go.

As for the flame business. My torch lighter was the spare and it too wouldn't light.

From now on, I'll be using the MSR stove until it warms up.

My kettle is a prefab aluminum welded kettle. Does anyone have one?
They're famous in Newfoundland and have a very very fast boil time.
I'd like to know eher I could buy one out here. The one I have is a 5 cup and I'd rather a 3 cup.

Gotta ask, what's the difference between a "smoked" kipper and a smoked herring?

 

[sealhunter]

For me kippers were the ones bought at the shop and herring were the ones we did ourselves. The ones we did ourselves were cured for 2 hours before smoking.
I'm not sure if you are real familiar with salt fish, be it cod or whatever, but it is fish, put in fish salt and dried. Can be stored all winter like this and easily shipped this way by the barrel or box. Fish is like plywood when dried properly

Well there is a thing called salt beef, not sure if you are familiar. comes vaccum packed or in a 5 gallon or 1 gallon pale. It is cured in salt brine and keeps for a long long time. Good to take on the boats for , and to store for winter

Well what you do is get a pale of salt beef and poor off the salt brine. it is very red from the meat blood and real salty. Ya put the hearing in this brine and throw in a bottle of molasses, a bottle of maple syrup, or a couple pounds brown sugar. (I use molasses)
Leave the fish in for 2 and a half hours, then wash it.
smoke it for an hour, and then put it on flakes for about 3 days sun.
Then it is pretty well corned depending on the size.
5 days and it's dry and you can put in a box for the winter, and just go get a fish out of the box when you want one.

I like herring and caplin done with the molases and pickle (salt beef brine), and corned not dried.
I do like the bought kippers, but they are a lot more oily then when done at home.

Cod I like salted, and well dried.

I like rounders corned, dried, pickled, whatever.

 

[northwoodslivin]

just cup the lighter in your hand and breath into it a couple times next time and it will fire up

OR keep your lighter in your pant pocket.

 

[Woodsman]

I lost a thermos in May while camping. When getting my hunting gear together
that September I found it again. I knew it would stink, but when ahead and opened it. To my surprise, the coffee was still steaming hot, and was still quite good, didn't taste off or old at all.

That was a good thermos.

Insert smilies in appropriate spaces!!!!

 

[cday]

What about wood?????

Now you're talkin'. C'mon Sealhunter, you know a cup of tea in the woods tastes WAY better when boiled on an open fire and your cup is half full of twigs, lol. We went trouting a couple summers ago and brought in the coleman stove and a cast iron frying pan full of moose, we still had to build a fire to boil the kettle, it just isn't the same without it. We boiled it on the stove first, but ended up throwing it away and boiling it on a fire. It just didn't have that taste that makes a boil up so good.

 

[cday]

Cod I like salted, and well dried.

I had Salt fish and brewis and scrunhions last night for supper. Not Da Worst!! lol.

 

[Chopperhead]

"...a propane powered vehicle outside at -45ºC..." Doesn't have to be that cold. The CF converted a bunch of IH stake trucks to propane(a week after a bunch of us TO CIL Officers got them on our 404's), long ago. Of course, come winter they wouldn't start if left outside over night. The CF's recommended solution was to build a fire under the fuel tank.
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Thats why alot of people run a dual fuel setup. if you use the gas on startup untill it gets warm then you never have any issues with the cold. the biggest thing is to get the vaperizer warm, more so then the tank itself.

also lighting a fire under the tank is perfectly safe. propane will not blow up like you see in movies. of curse using a heater of some sort would be a much better route but in a pinch you would be perfectly safe to do so.