Ishapore 410 riot gun

Dave.S

Dave.S

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Thinking of sourcing an Ishapore 410 riot gun,not keen on trying to source or make brass shells,I watched a youtube video and the guy was using commercial shells.Has anyone here in Canada had there musket reamed to accept commercially available ammo?if so who can do it?Dave
 
Yes if one became available at the right time,in the meantime I guess I'm looking for someone who can do the work in southern Ontario.
 
I don't see the point in getting an Ishapore Riot Gun without wanting to make the proper brass case ammo. Its the thing that makes the gun special IMO. I'd just get one of the millions of other 410s available if I wanted to shoot normal 410 ammo.

And I would NEVER convert one from the brass case to normal 410... If I HAD TO have one, and it HAD TO BE in normal 410, I'd buy one that has already been converted (Even if that meant a lot of searching)... Don't bubba one that hasn't been converted...
 
I lugged mine out to the last gun show, takes .410 3”, in beautiful shape and all matching with an Ishapore bayo to boot. No takers, not much interest in military guns that day. Mine came to me reamed, work I believe done by the importer back in the day. If the time is right OP feel free to pm me.
 
If a “riot” gun The primers are the strangest I believe. Odd shaped firing pin would make it useless. I think the .410 musket is more than doable with fireformed .303 brass.

Correction. Im thinking the greener. I was mistaken.
 
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mctrigger said:
If a “riot” gun The primers are the strangest I believe. Odd shaped firing pin would make it useless. I think the .410 musket is more than doable with fireformed .303 brass.
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The idea was if the gun was stolen, ammunition would be unobtainiam. One of those Indian things, I've seen pics of armed Indian soldiers with their weapons chained to them.

Grizz
 
I have both the original chambering, and one that takes .410 3" regular ammo. The original one requires "blown out" .303 British cases. Potashminer sent me a bunch of brand new PPU boxer primed .303 cases. They all blew out perfectly, no splits. Other brands may or may not work so good. I tried others and some worked, some didn't. I think I'll stick with PPU. I bought some PPU and found them to have Berdan primers, so I drilled the pocket out with a "C" letter drill and used shotgun primers.

The 3" chambered one, I can use regular plastic (or paper, I suppose) hulls or 444 Marlin brass. I have posted about my experiments with round balls and .410 actual cast bullets poured with a LEE .410 mold. It's been a journey of experimenting, failing, succeeding, and learning always.

At the muzzles, both measure .410, and are likely .410 the whole way back to the chamber. They are fun to shoot, a decent bang, next to no recoil with my loads, and, well...reasonably accurate.
 
kjohn said:
I have both the original chambering, and one that takes .410 3" regular ammo. The original one requires "blown out" .303 British cases. Potashminer sent me a bunch of brand new PPU boxer primed .303 cases. They all blew out perfectly, no splits. Other brands may or may not work so good. I tried others and some worked, some didn't. I think I'll stick with PPU. I bought some PPU and found them to have Berdan primers, so I drilled the pocket out with a "C" letter drill and used shotgun primers.

The 3" chambered one, I can use regular plastic (or paper, I suppose) hulls or 444 Marlin brass. I have posted about my experiments with round balls and .410 actual cast bullets poured with a LEE .410 mold. It's been a journey of experimenting, failing, succeeding, and learning always.

At the muzzles, both measure .410, and are likely .410 the whole way back to the chamber. They are fun to shoot, a decent bang, next to no recoil with my loads, and, well...reasonably accurate.
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We've used .444 Marlin brass in an old Ivor Johnson single shot with success. Plus they look cool as hell.
 
I’ve recently come into possession of one of these and as cool as it is, I’ll never use it and I already have too many guns I don’t use so it’s likely bound for the EE soon.

What are the desirable traits to look for? I imagine compatibility with modern ammo would be one feature.
 
jacotsmith said:
I’ve recently come into possession of one of these and as cool as it is, I’ll never use it and I already have too many guns I don’t use so it’s likely bound for the EE soon.

What are the desirable traits to look for? I imagine compatibility with modern ammo would be one feature.
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Good question. Modern ammo compatibility helps with being able to easily shoot it, but they wouldn't have the same historical/collector value. I wonder which fetches more these days.
 
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