First Handgun GP100 .357 vs. Kimber Stainless II .45ACP
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MauserMike
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Consider shooting a Smith and Wesson before buying Ruger. The 686 is a heck of a nice gun and clean, used S&W guns in .357 are not hard to find.
If you reload, you might even consider a model 29. Shoot anything from light .44spl target loads up to the full Dirty Harry.
If you reload, you might even consider a model 29. Shoot anything from light .44spl target loads up to the full Dirty Harry.
Im a 1911 Nut. And Kimber makes beautiful 1911's. I would definatly go with the Kimber. The Stainless II model is a beauty, but If you have the choice, maybe look into the Ecipse, the Warrior, Raptor or even the Aegis!! God dam ###y!!
heavenIsAlie
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kimber with a .22 top end for cheaper shooting when needed/wanted
aegis is only 9mm so wont work for his .45 wanting, plus 6 month wait for them on order
tell your wife to be you are against shoes, see if that gets her to lighten up
aegis is only 9mm so wont work for his .45 wanting, plus 6 month wait for them on order
tell your wife to be you are against shoes, see if that gets her to lighten up
My wife is also a little "anti" and I manage to buy LOTS of guns. WTF is with this she won't "let" me stuff.
So are you saying that, for the rest of your life, your wife needs to approve everything you buy? Sorry but it must be done:
Longterm you will never be happy with just one or two handguns so man the fu#k up and tell your wife to be that you love guns and you will buy guns, and lots of em, from now until the day you die.
Now either your one of those poeple who keep your woman under your thumb ( power tripper ) Or I would even make a bet that your not married. Alot of people including myself are married and in order to buy firearms it requires the approval of the wife. Money doesnt grow on trees for the most of us so when money that we both earn as a family is to be spent on things that are rather expensive, its only normal and responsible to go through with it with hte wife. Ive been shut down many times on certain purchaces. That's life. I have enough to go out and play with. I know Ill be able to buy more in the futur. But I dont think the Ole South West approach like " B*tch!! go git me a beer and I dont want to hear nuttin out of u regardin my buying of guns " is a tactic that's used anymore. Hopefully that's not the way things are in your home.
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I'm not sure if you read my follow up posts. I am indeed happily married. I live in a home based on mutual respect and it's the furthest thing from "B*tch!! go git me a beer and I dont want to hear nuttin out of u regardin my buying of guns". I simply don't understand "asking permission" or "let" when in comes to a person's interest's or hobbies. My wife is into scrapbooking, certainly not my thing but whatever floats her boat. I would never dream of not "letting" her spend her own discretionary money on her hobby and I expect and get the same in return. I dunno, just seems crazy to have to "ask" before buying something to me.
My wife likes shoes, handbags, spa treatments and jewelry. My wife is responsible to make her choices in how she spends her income and so am I.
Also Anti-gun is not necessarily a permanent state of mind. Mine started out very Anti-Gun. Over time this change to love him tolerate the guns. Then love him buy him guns as its the only d#mn thing that makes him happy.
Finally to love him buy myself a gun and go on the Black Badge Course. Now that is wedded bliss.
Also Anti-gun is not necessarily a permanent state of mind. Mine started out very Anti-Gun. Over time this change to love him tolerate the guns. Then love him buy him guns as its the only d#mn thing that makes him happy.
Finally to love him buy myself a gun and go on the Black Badge Course. Now that is wedded bliss.
I was in the same boat as you drvrage. I am by no means new to guns, but I recently got my restricted license, finally allowing me to get myself my first handgun. Since I was a kid I've been crazy over getting a 1911, so the search began. To make a long story sort, the one 1911 I intended on getting, turned into a 1911, a revolver, and a 9mm. I ended up getting a Norinco 1911 because I like the look of the original design (it also saved me money for the other guns!). I was still gun hungry, and have always wanted a nice SS revolver in .357, and it just so happens a great deal came by and I ended up getting a 1985 Ruger Redhawk in .357. I then convince myself I needed a 9mm to "save" me money on ammo in the long run. So now came my most expensive purchase of a CZ SP01......and lets just say this all happened in a span of less then a week....I still don't have any of them in my possession, but man oh man I can't wait.......my advice is try and find good deals on both your guns, and buy both. You might have to sell some things on ebay to get the money like I did, but you wont be disappointed. Good luck!
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- Maple Ridge, BC
Pretty much sums up how it works in my home as well. I just can't see being happy, long term, working it any other way.
i have both of those & others as well, many years of collecting & shooting, I really like the ruger gp100, its very well built,nice finish,versatile & its priced RIGHT, versatile ammo, easy reloads, that said there are a LOT of nice guns out there, this probably wont be your last. By the way, my wife was anti gun for 20 yrs of marriage, but she let me have all my hobbies, 2 wks ago i got her to take her pal course, & she liked it, now all i have to do is get her to the range! soon soon
Like someone already said, "Test drive as many as you can before coughing up the funds." If that's not an option and you are looking to learn, improve, maybe get the wife interested, etc, I'd seriously consider the .357. If you branch into reloading you can do some low power target loads so as not to scare the bejasus out of new shooters and you can upgrade to the full house loads for personal fun.
I am not going to say "forget the .45" because from experience I know that once you get your revolver craving satisfied you'll find a way, sooner or later, to get that .45...we always do!
BTW, I do have a GP in 4" stainless. Good choice.
I am not going to say "forget the .45" because from experience I know that once you get your revolver craving satisfied you'll find a way, sooner or later, to get that .45...we always do!
BTW, I do have a GP in 4" stainless. Good choice.
agree with all who says to buy both.
a 357 revolver and a 45 auto should satisfy for a long time.
a friend has a ruger and tried it long time ago. they are tough and sometimes i still think the push button release for the cylinder makes better ergonomice over a smith, and a smith push forward release makes more sense than the pull back release on my python. i think a lot depends on the trigger action most suitable for you from all three types. try them out. for a first revolver, i also recommend the smith 686 in 6 inch.
for a 1911, the kimber is top end, but never owned one. and if you decide to buy both types of handguns, there are lower priced ones like a springfield, smith 1911 etc. used on the ee. buy used where the bargains are.
i am a full time custody father of my daughter (now 14) and a son (now 13) for the past 10 years. my ex can only visit them if supervised by the court so she does not. she has to pay me child support at $643 per month, which i enforce through garnishment, and seizure of rrsp's etc. the deputy sheriff is getting her rearrested and take her before the family court judge to bring up the arrears
so i am at the opposite range of things, instead of worrying about a partner as to how i spend my money on guns or not (my ex was all right with guns until i called the breakup, then she was all anti gun for the custody dispute years ago), now i can afford to use some of the child support i get to buy and add to my collection. go figure
my advice (being a criminal and family lawyer) is to talk things through now, and to keep talking things out during the marriage, as to planning and compromising on expenses to meet both of your respective interests, needs and wants, and more important on joint spending on things and activities you like together, keeping in mind than personal/joint hobbies will change or deepen over the years ahead
one final thought, reminds me of the saying that "married men live longer than single men". actually, married men don't, but some days, it just seems that way. LOL and congrats for your upcoming.
a 357 revolver and a 45 auto should satisfy for a long time.
a friend has a ruger and tried it long time ago. they are tough and sometimes i still think the push button release for the cylinder makes better ergonomice over a smith, and a smith push forward release makes more sense than the pull back release on my python. i think a lot depends on the trigger action most suitable for you from all three types. try them out. for a first revolver, i also recommend the smith 686 in 6 inch.
for a 1911, the kimber is top end, but never owned one. and if you decide to buy both types of handguns, there are lower priced ones like a springfield, smith 1911 etc. used on the ee. buy used where the bargains are.
i am a full time custody father of my daughter (now 14) and a son (now 13) for the past 10 years. my ex can only visit them if supervised by the court so she does not. she has to pay me child support at $643 per month, which i enforce through garnishment, and seizure of rrsp's etc. the deputy sheriff is getting her rearrested and take her before the family court judge to bring up the arrears
so i am at the opposite range of things, instead of worrying about a partner as to how i spend my money on guns or not (my ex was all right with guns until i called the breakup, then she was all anti gun for the custody dispute years ago), now i can afford to use some of the child support i get to buy and add to my collection. go figure
my advice (being a criminal and family lawyer) is to talk things through now, and to keep talking things out during the marriage, as to planning and compromising on expenses to meet both of your respective interests, needs and wants, and more important on joint spending on things and activities you like together, keeping in mind than personal/joint hobbies will change or deepen over the years ahead
one final thought, reminds me of the saying that "married men live longer than single men". actually, married men don't, but some days, it just seems that way. LOL and congrats for your upcoming.
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This advice is GOLDEN. I think it's really important that both parties have discretionary funds for spending unconditionally and with no questions asked.......wow this thread is fuc$ed up and it's all my fault
Geez, how can one be a lawyer if one is a criminal?
Or did you mean to say you practice both criminal and family law?
Hey, and I bet your favourite poet is: ee cummings? no?
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Well, I'll chalk this up to lesson learned. Next time I'll ask the question and leave the details out. I never expected the conversation to be about my relationship! For what it is worth, I want to get them now, when my money is my money because once we are married, there are a million things that need OUR money more than a hobby. (Regardless of whether I like scrapbooking or guns). The point is that I will have a hard time justifying $1000 worth of hand gun, when that could be $1000 worth of furniture, appliances or home renos. In either case, the renos and furniture can wait just like my handgun can wait. But seeing that there is an election looming and most parties support a handgun ban, I'm going to see if I can get Grandfathered just in case things go wrong.
Thanks for the advice everyone. Based on this thread, and on what I've been reading, I will probably pray to the VISA gods and end up getting both. The talk is that they are both top notch guns as reputable as any. If I were to just get one, it would be the .357. Cost and versatility win. But who am I kidding? All the CGN'ers here knew it before I did. I'll get both, and probably some more later.
THX
Thanks for the advice everyone. Based on this thread, and on what I've been reading, I will probably pray to the VISA gods and end up getting both. The talk is that they are both top notch guns as reputable as any. If I were to just get one, it would be the .357. Cost and versatility win. But who am I kidding? All the CGN'ers here knew it before I did. I'll get both, and probably some more later.
THX
