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So I’ve been binging a lot of C_DOES and DeltaThirtyFour lately. I got to googling and I was wondering if a scope exists that’s:
Under 19oz
1-8 ffp or 2-10 ffp with paralax
Has a useable reticle (for me anything other than the leupold duplex) and is semi bright illum.

I came across a leupold 2-8 (sfp) that’s super light. Just has a duplex though
I think the vx3 3-10 are also light AF but sfp
There’s the pst gen2 2-10 that’s a pig
There’s also the primary arms 2.5-10 that’s 22 or 23 oz

There’s some 1-10’s out there that fall in the 19 to 23 ish oz range i think, but after seeing so much content, it appears as though 1-10 tech hasn’t really caught up in terms of quality. And it appears that there is a sacrifice either at the 1x or the 8-10x ranges (or both)

Maybe one of you guys know of a light 1-8 ffp or a light 2-10?
Basically if the pst gen2 had capped turrets, and weighed under 20oz haha
 
Been down that rabbit hole, bright+FFP+~20oz+good 1x+paralax just doesn't seem achievable.

Real question is what are you going to drop to find something that is more realistic.

USO has some interesting options at the time I was researching but I ended up going MPVO with a 3-12x for that experiment. Sadly don't have much time behind it to make an informed consensus on the brand.
 
Also another channel to add your in depth scope reviews is SuperSetCA although hes getting F'd by youtube and spinning off a new channel now.
Seems most of his old stuff is still up
 
AntiKhaos said:
Been down that rabbit hole, bright+FFP+~20oz+good 1x+paralax just doesn't seem achievable.

Real question is what are you going to drop to find something that is more realistic.

USO has some interesting options at the time I was researching but I ended up going MPVO with a 3-12x for that experiment. Sadly don't have much time behind it to make an informed consensus on the brand.
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I’ve looked at USO and from what I’ve read they don’t seem to be of medium ish quality overall. I try and use the pst gen2 (1-6 or 2-10 as a baseline for mid tier or upper middle class type optic quality etc).
But you’re right on the 3-12, ffp, 18 oz…how big/high is the elevation turret? Thinking of piggyback red dot.
Also their 1-8 is 17oz and ffp.
Where can you find these in Canuckistan? The msrp on their site seems low…I just imagine being gouged price wise
 
AntiKhaos said:
Also another channel to add your in depth scope reviews is SuperSetCA although hes getting F'd by youtube and spinning off a new channel now.
Seems most of his old stuff is still up
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Yah I like supersetCa but I don’t think I’ve seen anything that meets that criteria (besides maybe the Kahles? I just can’t remember off the top of my head)
 
HvacFridge Apprentice said:
I’ve looked at USO and from what I’ve read they don’t seem to be of medium ish quality overall. I try and use the pst gen2 (1-6 or 2-10 as a baseline for mid tier or upper middle class type optic quality etc).
But you’re right on the 3-12, ffp, 18 oz…how big/high is the elevation turret? Thinking of piggyback red dot.
Also their 1-8 is 17oz and ffp.
Where can you find these in Canuckistan? The msrp on their site seems low…I just imagine being gouged price wise
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Got mine from GoBigTactical they're cheap scopes because like pretty much most of the others listed its Chinese tubes/glass, US assembled/inspected.
 
AntiKhaos said:
Got mine from GoBigTactical they're cheap scopes because like pretty much most of the others listed its Chinese tubes/glass, US assembled/inspected.
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Ahhh yah that’s what I figured. Chinese glass. I’m curious what your experience is with that 3-12 though. It seems light enough. Again, piggyback red dot in mind, so the elevation turret height is my concern. Similar to my pst gen2 2-10, it’s tall for a piggyback.
I wonder what it looks like at 8-12 magnification (distortion etc) at 4 to 600 yards
 
AntiKhaos said:
Turret is 2cm from body to top of the turret. I think it would be fine aside from the lowest of the low. So maybe something like an acro on dedicated mount might lose some of the window.
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I’ll definitely add this to the list. Just gotta see some reviews.
I guess I don’t trust optics reviewers at all. C_DOES I find does a good job of visually representing the optic at least
 
Bfranklin said:
March optics?
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Yup! You’re bang on, 1-8 shorty ffp is under 17oz and the 1-10’s are like 18 oz. Absolutely insane
But so is the price. I’d have to see a ton of reviews comparing multiple different optics at different price/quality ranges to make any sort of relative educated decision on those. They seem too good to be true. The price is a huge hindering factor for me without having multiple reviews or data points to consider
 
Lpvos tend to not have parallax adjustment and 2-10 or 2-12 FFP scopes are all heavy unless you pay a huge premium.

I don't see the use of FFP for LPVO. Maybe that's just me but I'm either on 1x or max.
 
The man who sells March scopes in Canada is located close to you. If you contact him and make an appointment you can handle and look through the scope at his location provided he has one in stock,he’s a very helpful guy.
 
if you like the leupolds, except for the reticle, on many of their models they can change to a different reticle. Contact Korth in Okotoks and see if they do it for that model.
 
HvacFridge Apprentice said:
So I’ve been binging a lot of C_DOES and DeltaThirtyFour lately. I got to googling and I was wondering if a scope exists that’s:
Under 19oz
1-8 ffp or 2-10 ffp with paralax
Has a useable reticle (for me anything other than the leupold duplex) and is semi bright illum.

I came across a leupold 2-8 (sfp) that’s super light. Just has a duplex though
I think the vx3 3-10 are also light AF but sfp
There’s the pst gen2 2-10 that’s a pig
There’s also the primary arms 2.5-10 that’s 22 or 23 oz

There’s some 1-10’s out there that fall in the 19 to 23 ish oz range i think, but after seeing so much content, it appears as though 1-10 tech hasn’t really caught up in terms of quality. And it appears that there is a sacrifice either at the 1x or the 8-10x ranges (or both)

Maybe one of you guys know of a light 1-8 ffp or a light 2-10?
Basically if the pst gen2 had capped turrets, and weighed under 20oz haha
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give an accupoint 3-9x40 green mil-dot a chance I guess, 13.4 oz, I'm surprised more guys don't use them on AR's but some guys have figured it out, you just have to be willing to place function over fashion ;)

I've had no issues dealing with called in coyotes at 30 yards on the fly with 4x regular duplex non-illuminated on the low end, most of the time with our accupoints they never get off 3x in hunting, just works amazingly fast and the illuminated dot adds a bunch of speed/intuitiveness to render the 3x an asset not a handicap imo

I've got a 1-6x accupoint German green that I'm loving so far but about 19 1/4 oz, about to try the vx5hd 1-5 firedot cds-zl (reports are 13.4 to 14.7 oz...should have it in hand soon) and have a vx3hd 1.5-5 cds-zl (it's 10.0 oz on my scale).

I'm generally not into brand surfing if not the bigger more proven names. Trijicon has earned respect with me and running these 3-9x40 accupoints for hunting, if you could slap a cds-zl turret on them and give 1/3 moa per click on the elevation it could be one of the most perfect general purpose scopes period. Also have a 1-4 accupoint German green coming which supposed to be 14.4 oz so will see how all these lighter lpvo's stack up to the heavier 1-6 I have. Would not consider heavier and that 1-6 only works for me because it went onto a rifle that started at 5 lb 10 oz...otherwise I probably would never go that heavy for a hunting set up.

We only hunt though, coyotes to big game, but keep mind for defensive function as well, camp or whatever, we attach weaver rails and o-light baldr lights at night time. Dealing with an univited guest shouldn't be an issue even at 3x in tight.

If trying to do long range target stuff then get proper larger objective scopes and magnification range, anything over 6x for a straight tube scope seems silly as low light will always be a problem and it will be unusable unless at low magnification anyway...so why have it? for playtime at noon? ffp? really in an lpvo? another silly concept...but I guess this is from an outdoorsman perspective, maybe military need to train and use other systems for protecting against zee germans, or politicians ;)
 
Just a caution …. The reticle in a FFP scope with a ‘1-8’ power range will appear to be 8 times bigger at maximum power compared to minimum power. That may mean either a very ‘fine’ reticle at 1 power or a very ‘large’ appearing reticle at 8 power. For some people this may be a show stopper.
 
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